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Re: Region 23
FF is gonna have to get better on the backend, especially if they face WJ again. You realize they played that game without top 2 corners? Game was much closer than score. Fort dominated LOS. I wish we could have played that game with Miller and Snodgrass. West Jeff lost top 3 WRs. I do think they h...
- Fri May 03, 2024 8:48 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: How "homegrown" is Wheelersburg football really?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 3866
Re: How "homegrown" is Wheelersburg football really?
So the same would go for Ironton also correct? I'm not sure what you mean. Ironton's program is better than 99% of the region. They also get transfers. That's athletes and families exercising the power of choice, and they choose Ironton. As much as I do appreciate loyalty to your hometown school, I...
- Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:26 am
- Forum: Football
- Topic: How "homegrown" is Wheelersburg football really?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 3866
Re: How "homegrown" is Wheelersburg football really?
As someone on the other side of the region, I don't understand why this keeps being a point of discussion. Wheelersburg clearly has strong programs, and if you think it's mainly because of some transfers, you don't understand how football teams win. They can augment an already strong program, but i...
- Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:25 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: How "homegrown" is Wheelersburg football really?
- Replies: 69
- Views: 3866
Re: How "homegrown" is Wheelersburg football really?
As someone on the other side of the region, I don't understand why this keeps being a point of discussion. Wheelersburg clearly has strong programs, and if you think it's mainly because of some transfers, you don't understand how football teams win. They can augment an already strong program, but it...
- Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:47 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
Obviously, great coaching is the foundation to a football program. But Ignoring other factors is just ignorant. I only chose this one because it's pretty obviously true. https://stories.usatodaynetwork.com/school-poverty-and-football-success/home/site/statesman.com?fbclid=IwAR1TRXeE1BWAyo7ah0orkMxLE...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:22 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
You’ve disagreed with me that coaching is the most important factor, and you keep referring back to income. You’ve disagreed with me that coaching is the most important factor, and you keep referring back to income. No. I never have said it was or it wasn't. I have said that demographics matter. Yo...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:28 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
I did not say that a district just needs to be affluent to have football success, so you can have fun with that straw man all you want. You’ve disagreed with me that coaching is the most important factor, and you keep referring back to income. I did not say that a district just needs to be affluent...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:36 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
I did not say that a district just needs to be affluent to have football success, so you can have fun with that straw man all you want.
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:46 am
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
You can do that, and maybe we'll both learn something. But other people have done similar research, which I have posted, and you always just disregard it. I appreciate you starting to show some willingness to look at data, but this is also you admitting you formed a conclusion before having the data...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:09 am
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
Professional teams are paid for winning and losing, so they have every reason to do what wins, and none of them runs a basic offense. Major college sports have millions of dollars riding on outcomes and commit millions of dollars to making that happen. There have been division I NCAA football teams...
- Thu Jan 04, 2024 8:17 am
- Forum: Football
- Topic: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
- Replies: 48
- Views: 3236
Re: What will it take for an SEOP area team to rise up to state-level competitor?
Professional teams are paid for winning and losing, so they have every reason to do what wins, and none of them runs a basic offense. Major college sports have millions of dollars riding on outcomes and commit millions of dollars to making that happen. There have been division I NCAA football teams ...
- Fri Dec 29, 2023 9:08 am
- Forum: Pro Sports
- Topic: 2023 Cleveland Browns
- Replies: 71
- Views: 12125
Re: 2023 Cleveland Browns
Has there been a more unlikely playoff run in recent NFL history? There's a great starting lineup on the injury list.
- Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:30 pm
- Forum: Boys Basketball
- Topic: Fort Frye vs Trimble
- Replies: 27
- Views: 1874
Re: Fort Frye vs Trimble
Fort Frye won in overtime
- Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:05 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
Re: Kirtland vs Versailles
Indian Hill doesn’t have much competition when it comes to income, a category you claimed was critical. Based on that, they shouldn’t be concerned about other schools stealing their talent and coaches. Ironton wouldn’t have beaten Sycamore a few years ago if income was such a large factor. So what ...
- Sun Dec 17, 2023 5:24 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
Re: Kirtland vs Versailles
J.O.B.S., and income the footprint of that conference all ranks in the top 3rd in Ohio in personal income, household income, and low unemployment. If it was just about income and jobs, Indian Hill would dominate Ohio football. It is not JUST about income and jobs. But the demographics of your distr...
- Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:46 am
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
Re: Kirtland vs Versailles
I never said coaching wasn't important. I only said that demographics matter. Income correlates to wins. Kirtland is an example of a place that has both great coaching and an ideal community. https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/article/ct-high-school-sports-ciac-inequality-17442595.php This article is...
- Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:18 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
Re: Kirtland vs Versailles
I never said coaching wasn't important. I only said that demographics matter. Income correlates to wins. Kirtland is an example of a place that has both great coaching and an ideal community.
https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/articl ... 442595.php
https://www.ctinsider.com/sports/articl ... 442595.php
- Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:30 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
- Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:55 pm
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
Re: Kirtland vs Versailles
Wealth does correlate to winning. Obviously, the athletes do need coaching too.
https://usatodayhss.com/2015/how-does-w ... ool-sports
https://usatodayhss.com/2015/how-does-w ... ool-sports
- Thu Dec 07, 2023 9:01 am
- Forum: Football
- Topic: Kirtland vs Versailles
- Replies: 81
- Views: 15728
Re: Kirtland vs Versailles
Great example! Trotwood is in Montgomery County . . . The median income for a household in the county was $40,156, and the median income for a family was $50,071. Males had a median income of $38,710 versus $27,297 for females. The per capita income for the county was $21,743. About 8.30% of familie...