When the OSHAA goes to 7 Divisions here is the breakdown

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Some Area Teams:
According to OSHAA site.
Here is the way it will break down.
Division I (1,164-600)
Division II (599-410)
Division III (409-288)-Athens (297boys) d-3 -Marietta (357) d-3 - Warren (356) d-3
Division IV (287-216)-Gallia (258boys) d-4 -Vinton County (271) d-4 -Fairland (235)d-4 -
Division V (215-159)- Rock Hill (170boys)d-5 - Portsmouth (179) d-5 -River Valley (198) d-5 - Meigs (209) - div 5
Division VI (158-114)
Division VII (111-30) South Gallia,Eastern,Southern, d-7

You can go to this link to get your schools enrollment numbers,I'm too lazy to do them all. > http://www.ohsaa.org/members/hsenroll11.htm
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Ironton - 174 - D5


This is the year that the new enrollment numbers are recalculated, some of those enrollment figures will change.


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I would not be surprised to see Warren go south of 300 boys when new numbers come out.


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Neil wrote:I would not be surprised to see Warren go south of 300 boys when new numbers come out.
That would mean a 20-25% drop in numbers, I can't see that big of a fall off happening.


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Valley is at 126


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Yay Youngstown Ursuline Stays away from D6.


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A-Town Big Dog 2 wrote:
Neil wrote:I would not be surprised to see Warren go south of 300 boys when new numbers come out.
That would mean a 20-25% drop in numbers, I can't see that big of a fall off happening.

District enrollment has dropped by over 200 students. It may be closer than you think.


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does this go into affect 2013.


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A-Town Big Dog 2 wrote:
Neil wrote:I would not be surprised to see Warren go south of 300 boys when new numbers come out.
That would mean a 20-25% drop in numbers, I can't see that big of a fall off happening.[/quote



Since the levy issues, and buses being taken away for HS, the enrollment has went way down. We use to have ~900 kids 9-12 and last I heard it was ~750 for 9-12. Neil is right on with his numbers. I would say it will be 280 -295 for the next count.


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Trimble goes to div.7 with 107boys
Belpre goes to 6 with 145
Ny goes to 6 with 151


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Don't they normally move the cutoffs depending on the number of teams? West is at 162. 3 from d6 with current numbers.


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Looks like the playoffs will be even more watered down than they already are. Why don't we just say every team makes the playoffs like basketball? It's headed that direction anyways.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:Looks like the playoffs will be even more watered down than they already are. Why don't we just say every team makes the playoffs like basketball? It's headed that direction anyways.
It could be worse.....

It could be like Kentucky!


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still not sure when this takes affect.


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You're Tiger Bait wrote:still not sure when this takes affect.
Next year Bait.


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NYBuckeye96 wrote:Looks like the playoffs will be even more watered down than they already are. Why don't we just say every team makes the playoffs like basketball? It's headed that direction anyways.
If my memory is right the numbers were going to stay roughly the same and they were going to just split up D1. But like they say the memory is the 1st thing to go :)


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News Release – Ohio High School Athletic Association
Commissioner Daniel B. Ross, Ph.D.
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Columbus, OH 43214
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For Immediate Release – April 12, 2012

OHSAA Board Adopts Recommendation to Add Seventh Football Division

Division I Will Be Reduced to 72 Schools; Plan to Begin in 2013

COLUMBUS, Ohio – The Ohio High School Athletic Association will be adding a seventh tournament division in
football beginning in 2013, Commissioner Daniel B. Ross has announced. The addition of a seventh division was
approved by the OHSAA’s Board of Directors by a 6 to 3 vote during its regularly scheduled meeting on Thursday.

The plan will place the top 10 percent of schools based on enrollment in Division I, with the remaining 644 schools
divided evenly among the next six divisions. This will leave 72 schools in Division I with the other six divisions
averaging approximately 108 schools. Each of the seven divisions will continue to qualify 32 teams to the
tournament. Currently, the six OHSAA football divisions are comprised of an average of 120 schools per division.

The plan for adopting an additional division was in response to a concern by some OHSAA member schools about
the enrollment disparity that exists in Division I, where the current range is 494 males at the lower end of the
division to 1,164 at the top. Based on current enrollment data, the lower end of Division I would increase to 600
males. Committee meetings were held to address the issue and the recommendation to add a seventh division
came from the committee.

“Adding a seventh division not only helps address the enrollment disparity in Division I, but it also will create 32
more tournament opportunities for student‐athletes, their schools and their communities, many of which have
never or rarely experienced the playoffs,” Ross said. “The committee members believe that this is an issue unique
to football, especially since not all schools qualify for the OHSAA football tournament.”

A separate committee, comprised of OHSAA Board and staff members, school administrators and officers of the
Ohio High School Football Coaches Association, will be formed to finalize the details of this plan. Among the details
to be determined: adjustments to the Harbin Computer Ratings with the addition of another division; regional
breakdowns and assignments for Division I, and dates in which specific divisions will play their tournament
contests, including logistics of an additional state tournament contest.

Approval of an “athletic count” formula, which is included within a competitive balance proposal that OHSAA
member school principals will vote on during the annual referendum process that will occur between May 1 and
15, would also be factored in before placing schools into their respective tournament divisions.

The next two‐year cycle for reassigning schools to tournament divisions begins in the fall of 2013. Based on current
enrollment figures, a sample of the football tournament divisional enrollment ranges when adding a seventh
division would be (again, keeping in mind that this will change before the 2013 season): Division I – 600 to 1,164;
Division II – 410 to 599; Division III – 288 to 409; Division IV – 216 to 287; Division V – 159 to 215; Division VI –
114 to 158, and Division VII – 30 to 111. The current football tournament divisional enrollment ranges, which run
OHSAA Expansion of Football Tournament Divisions ‐2‐2‐2
through 2012, are: Division I – 494 to 1,164; Division II – 327 to 493; Division III – 243 to 326; Division IV – 172 to
242; Division V – 120 to 171, and Division VI – 30 to 119.

This is the first time the OHSAA has expanded the number of football tournament divisions since 1994, when a
sixth division was added. Five years later, the number of tournament qualifiers in each division expanded from 16
to 32. When the tournament first began in 1972, there were three football tournament divisions, and expansion to
five divisions occurred in 1980.
### OHSAA ###


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ohbuckeye2 wrote:
NYBuckeye96 wrote:Looks like the playoffs will be even more watered down than they already are. Why don't we just say every team makes the playoffs like basketball? It's headed that direction anyways.
If my memory is right the numbers were going to stay roughly the same and they were going to just split up D1. But like they say the memory is the 1st thing to go :)


No matter how many schools are in each division, you now have 7 divisions. 32 teams from each division will make the playoffs (8 teams in 4 different regions).

By creating a 7th division, 32 more teams will now make the playoffs each year.


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OVC
Using current numbers that I don't think will change that much.

Chesepeake DIV V
Coal Grove DIV VI
Fairland DIV IV
River Valley DIV V
Rock HILL DIV V
South Point DIV V

Here is the downfall of this system if they keep point values the same for each division. I will use the Grove as an example, if we go undefeated in the conference that is under current system 22 first level points, under new system it will be 20.5, which makes it harder for smaller schools to make playoffs.


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2trap_4ever wrote:OVC
Using current numbers that I don't think will change that much.

Chesepeake DIV V
Coal Grove DIV VI
Fairland DIV IV
River Valley DIV V
Rock HILL DIV V
South Point DIV V

Here is the downfall of this system if they keep point values the same for each division. I will use the Grove as an example, if we go undefeated in the conference that is under current system 22 first level points, under new system it will be 20.5, which makes it harder for smaller schools to make playoffs.
Not necessarily..... It would depend on the status of other leagues. If you have a former DIV that will be DV playing in a league against DIII teams, then yes, that team has an opportunity to garner more 1st level points. I think you would find that the majority of other leagues around Ohio would be in the same boat as the OVC teams.

If you look at DIV R15, nearly ALL of those teams will be moving down to DV as well (Waverly, Unioto, Utica, Meadowbrook, Indian Valley, Harrison Central, and St. C would remain in DIV based on current enrollment figures). So, those teams will still be going against the same competition to make the playoffs. The OVC will limit those teams, but my view is that they would need to "schedule up" in their non-conference matchups to negate the difference.


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