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SWHITE2002 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:59 pm
art_vandelay wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:37 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:20 pm

From what I was told this is true and some of the natives aren’t happy about it

Fairly sad that Burg Football has fell to the point that they are dodging teams of equal size and manipulating the schedule for playoff seeding and to keep the consecutive non-loosing season streak alive
"Some of the natives" don't understand that not playing Oak Hill was a gift for Burg. If you believe Drew Pasteur's site, it was the difference between Burg going on the road in first round of playoffs and now likely getting a home game. Probably also saved Burg from going back to Ironton in Round 2 of playoffs (instead of at a neutral site later) when looking at how the Region shaking out. While you can question the optics of turning down a replacement game with Pikeville, it was the right call for Burg.*
Is loosing at Harvest Prep any better than loosing at Ironton?
Playing @ Harvest Prep with their 200 fans would be a lot different than playing @ Ironton in front of their 3000 fans. At HP would basically be a neutral site game for Burg instead of a true road game. Agreed though that HP would still be the heavy favorite.*


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Re: DV R19

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Post Week 9 Playoff Outlook

In-14
Ironton (Home x2), Columbus Academy (Home, 54% x2), Fairland (Home, Likely x2), Barnesville (Home, 90% x2), Harvest Prep (Home, 55% x2), West Muskingum (Home, 2% x2), Portsmouth West (93% Home), Wheelersburg (79% Home), Heath (27% Home), Africentric, Union Local, South Point, Utica, New Lexington

6 Contenders for 2 Spots
4-5 Worthington Christian 77% bubble if 4-6
4-4 Minford 67% need 5-4
5-4 Portsmouth 51% bubble if 5-5
6-3 Piketon 3% need 7-3
4-5 Centerburg 2% need 5-5
3-6 Chesapeake <2% need 4-6

Eliminated
Meadowbrook, Wellston, Liberty Union, Northwest, Amanda-Clearcreek, Meigs, Alexander, River Valley

Seeding based on Projected Points
1.
28.69 Ironton 9-1 Win over Portsmouth (99%)
2.
25.30 Columbus Academy 10-0 Win over Bishop Ready (55%)
3.
24.25 Fairland 9-1 Win over Chesapeake (99%)
4.
23.60 Barnesville 10-0 Win over Union Local (94%)
5.
22.99 Harvest Prep 9-1 Win over KIPP Columbus (99%)
6.
21.50 West Muskingum 9-1 Win over Meadowbrook (99%)
21.03 Portsmouth West 9-1 Win over Wheelersburg (16%)
20.55 Columbus Academy 9-1 Loss to Bishop Ready (45%)
7.
18.18 Portsmouth West 8-2 Loss to Wheelersburg (84%)
8.
18.17 Wheelersburg 6-3 Win over Portsmouth West (84%)
9.
17.70 Heath 8-2 Win over Johnstown (95%)
10.
16.40 Africentric 7-3 Win over Eastmoor Academy (57%)
15.70 New Lexington 6-4 Win over Sheridan (12%)
13.52 Wheelersburg 5-4 Loss to Portsmouth West (16%)
13.05 Africentric 6-4 Loss to Eastmoor Academy (43%)
11.
11.85 Utica 7-3 Win over Lakewood (87%)
12.
11.75 Worthington Christian 5-5 Win over Bexley (55%)
13.
11.62 Union Local 6-4 Loss to Barnesville (94%)
14.
11.24 South Point 5-5 Loss to Gallia Academy (92%)
15.
10.95 New Lexington 5-5 Loss to Sheridan (88%)
10.35 Utica 6-4 Loss to Lakewood (13%)
16.
9.97 Minford 5-4 Win over Valley (92%)
9.83 Portsmouth 5-5 Loss to Ironton (99%)
9.75 Centerburg 5-5 Win over Fredericktown (57%)
9.63 Worthington Christian 4-6 Loss to Bexley (45%)
9.43 Piketon 7-3 Win over Westfall (48%)
7.70 Centerburg 4-6 Loss to Fredericktown (43%)
6.74 Piketon 6-4 Loss to Westfall (52%)
5.75 Chesapeake 3-7 Loss to Fairland (99%)
Last edited by muskiefan11 on Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.


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I’m a Portsmouth fan but I’m not sure the Trojans get in. Setting at 14 and a loss may drop them out. Now a win would be amazing. Portsmouth may speak into a 16 seed and another rematch at the tank.


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Beergogglebluez wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:57 pm I’m a Portsmouth fan but I’m not sure the Trojans get in. Setting at 14 and a loss may drop them out. Now a win would be amazing. Portsmouth may speak into a 16 seed and another rematch at the tank.
I agree. I’m optimistic in saying that I believe Ironton’s Oline isn’t far more superior, than our Dline, especially McKenzie off their tackle, but containing Terry is a task I don’t think our secondary is capable of.
Was hoping Valley could pull out two wins to wins to end their season to help with some second level points.
I don’t know if I want us in though, maybe it’ll ignite a flame in the program, top to bottom, HC to last freshman that doesn’t see the field, to do some house cleaning and come back with a new identity next year.


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Muskie fan touched on this earlier..,#4 Columbus Academy has a huge point game with 8-1 Bishop Ready. With a win CA will most likely jump #3 Harvest Prep who plays a 2-7 team. CA could jump Fairland as well and be in the #2 slot depending how the 2nd level points fall( probably not likely). So with a CA win I see the top 4 in this region as:
Ironton
Fairland
Columbus Academy
Harvest Prep


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If it shakes out as Fantastic 50 has projected…a Pirate victory and a win by Waverly (Mt. Healthy) or McNick (Badin) could put Burg in the 7 seed.


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It’s looking very possible that Ironton, Harvest Prep, and Wheelersburg could end up on the same side of the bracket.


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TigerBob wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:05 am It’s looking very possible that Ironton, Harvest Prep, and Wheelersburg could end up on the same side of the bracket.
Not a lock but the odds are pointing to this.


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TigerBob wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:05 am It’s looking very possible that Ironton, Harvest Prep, and Wheelersburg could end up on the same side of the bracket.
Wouldn’t that be a treat.


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muskiefan11 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 3:20 pm Post Week 9 Playoff Outlook

In-14
Ironton (Home x2), Columbus Academy (Home, 54% x2), Fairland (Home, Likely x2), Barnesville (Home, 90% x2), Harvest Prep (Home, 55% x2), West Muskingum (Home, 2% x2), Portsmouth West (93% Home), Wheelersburg (79% Home), Heath (27% Home), Africentric, Union Local, South Point, Utica, New Lexington

6 Contenders for 2 Spots
4-5 Worthington Christian 77% bubble if 4-6
4-4 Minford 67% need 5-4
5-4 Portsmouth 51% bubble if 5-5
6-3 Piketon 3% need 7-3
4-5 Centerburg 2% need 5-5
3-6 Chesapeake <2% need 4-6

Eliminated
Meadowbrook, Wellston, Liberty Union, Northwest, Amanda-Clearcreek, Meigs, Alexander, River Valley

Seeding based on Projected Points
1.
28.69 Ironton 9-1 Win over Portsmouth (99%)
2.
25.30 Columbus Academy 10-0 Win over Bishop Ready (55%)
3.
24.25 Fairland 9-1 Win over Chesapeake (99%)
4.
23.60 Barnesville 10-0 Win over Union Local (94%)
5.
22.99 Harvest Prep 9-1 Win over KIPP Columbus (99%)
6.
21.50 West Muskingum 9-1 Win over Meadowbrook (99%)
21.03 Portsmouth West 9-1 Win over Wheelersburg (16%)
20.55 Columbus Academy 9-1 Loss to Bishop Ready (45%)
7.
18.18 Portsmouth West 8-2 Loss to Wheelersburg (84%)
8.
18.17 Wheelersburg 6-3 Win over Portsmouth West (84%)
9.
17.70 Heath 8-2 Win over Johnstown (95%)
10.
16.40 Africentric 7-3 Win over Eastmoor Academy (57%)
15.70 New Lexington 6-4 Win over Sheridan (12%)
13.52 Wheelersburg 5-4 Loss to Portsmouth West (16%)
13.05 Africentric 6-4 Loss to Eastmoor Academy (43%)
11.
11.85 Utica 7-3 Win over Lakewood (87%)
12.
11.75 Worthington Christian 5-5 Win over Bexley (55%)
13.
11.62 Union Local 6-4 Loss to Barnesville (94%)
14.
11.24 South Point 5-5 Loss to Gallia Academy (92%)
15.
10.95 New Lexington 5-5 Loss to Sheridan (88%)
10.35 Utica 6-4 Loss to Lakewood (13%)
16.
9.97 Minford 5-4 Win over Valley (92%)
9.83 Portsmouth 5-5 Loss to Ironton (99%)
9.75 Centerburg 5-5 Win over Fredericktown (57%)
9.63 Worthington Christian 4-6 Loss to Bexley (45%)
9.43 Piketon 7-3 Win over Westfall (48%)
7.70 Centerburg 4-6 Loss to Fredericktown (43%)
6.74 Piketon 6-4 Loss to Westfall (52%)
5.75 Chesapeake 3-7 Loss to Fairland (99%)
Updated to include projected seeding based on most likely outcomes.


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SWHITE2002 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:59 pm
art_vandelay wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:37 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:20 pm

From what I was told this is true and some of the natives aren’t happy about it

Fairly sad that Burg Football has fell to the point that they are dodging teams of equal size and manipulating the schedule for playoff seeding and to keep the consecutive non-loosing season streak alive
"Some of the natives" don't understand that not playing Oak Hill was a gift for Burg. If you believe Drew Pasteur's site, it was the difference between Burg going on the road in first round of playoffs and now likely getting a home game. Probably also saved Burg from going back to Ironton in Round 2 of playoffs (instead of at a neutral site later) when looking at how the Region shaking out. While you can question the optics of turning down a replacement game with Pikeville, it was the right call for Burg.*
Is loosing at Harvest Prep any better than loosing at Ironton?


Who said they would lose at Ironton? Burg should have won the first meeting up there and i bet Ironton hopes the game is up there but I think Burg can surprise some people if they do play again.


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yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:50 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:59 pm
art_vandelay wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:37 pm

"Some of the natives" don't understand that not playing Oak Hill was a gift for Burg. If you believe Drew Pasteur's site, it was the difference between Burg going on the road in first round of playoffs and now likely getting a home game. Probably also saved Burg from going back to Ironton in Round 2 of playoffs (instead of at a neutral site later) when looking at how the Region shaking out. While you can question the optics of turning down a replacement game with Pikeville, it was the right call for Burg.*
Is loosing at Harvest Prep any better than loosing at Ironton?


Who said they would lose at Ironton? Burg should have won the first meeting up there and i bet Ironton hopes the game is up there but I think Burg can surprise some people if they do play again.
Yes. Harvest Prep is better than Ironton

But they are probably not beating either, especially on the road. And Wheelersburg is so upset that Ironton has their number that they would rather loose to HP.


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SWHITE2002 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:06 pm
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:50 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:59 pm

Is loosing at Harvest Prep any better than loosing at Ironton?


Who said they would lose at Ironton? Burg should have won the first meeting up there and i bet Ironton hopes the game is up there but I think Burg can surprise some people if they do play again.
Yes. Harvest Prep is better than Ironton

But they are probably not beating either, especially on the road. And Wheelersburg is so upset that Ironton has their number that they would rather loose to HP.
Harvest prep has the talent to win it all, but they won’t. Just like Ironton they lack the coaching and discipline


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522Pirate wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:10 am If it shakes out as Fantastic 50 has projected…a Pirate victory and a win by Waverly (Mt. Healthy) or McNick (Badin) could put Burg in the 7 seed.
McNick isn’t beating Badin.


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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:17 pm
522Pirate wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:10 am If it shakes out as Fantastic 50 has projected…a Pirate victory and a win by Waverly (Mt. Healthy) or McNick (Badin) could put Burg in the 7 seed.
McNick isn’t beating Badin.
I don’t think so either but stranger things have happened…


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fbnut wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:15 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:06 pm
yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:50 pm



Who said they would lose at Ironton? Burg should have won the first meeting up there and i bet Ironton hopes the game is up there but I think Burg can surprise some people if they do play again.
Yes. Harvest Prep is better than Ironton

But they are probably not beating either, especially on the road. And Wheelersburg is so upset that Ironton has their number that they would rather loose to HP.
Harvest prep has the talent to win it all, but they won’t. Just like Ironton they lack the coaching and discipline
I don’t think HP is as good as they were last year…pretty decent step back at QB…he’s a bulldozer running the ball and can hit some passes but no where near as good as last years QB


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Burg would have to go against prep anc Ironton eventually. What’s it matter when? The big thing is Ironton and prep has to go through burg. Probably something they would rather avoid. Burg is a really good football team right now.


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522Pirate wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:23 pm
TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:17 pm
522Pirate wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:10 am If it shakes out as Fantastic 50 has projected…a Pirate victory and a win by Waverly (Mt. Healthy) or McNick (Badin) could put Burg in the 7 seed.
McNick isn’t beating Badin.
I don’t think so either but stranger things have happened…
A Waverly win helps West equally as it does Burg. So a Burg win scenario:
I agree McNicholas will lose to Badin
Portsmouth will lose to Ironton and Wellston has to be a huge underdog to 8-1 Vinton County, leaving the only potential 2nd level points for West outside SOC games to be 5-4 Hillsboro beating 5-4 McClain. If all that happens, I have Burg at 18.169 in the 7 spot and West with a loss at 18.03 in the 8 spot. That’s assuming Northwest beats Oak Hill. If the Oaks happen to win that, West gets 2nd level points and Burg won’t since they didn’t play Oak Hill


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Oldtimer55 wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:30 pm
522Pirate wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:23 pm
TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:17 pm

McNick isn’t beating Badin.
I don’t think so either but stranger things have happened…
A Waverly win helps West equally as it does Burg. So a Burg win scenario:
I agree McNicholas will lose to Badin
Portsmouth will lose to Ironton and Wellston has to be a huge underdog to 8-1 Vinton County, leaving the only potential 2nd level points for West outside SOC games to be 5-4 Hillsboro beating 5-4 McClain. If all that happens, I have Burg at 18.169 in the 7 spot and West with a loss at 18.03 in the 8 spot. That’s assuming Northwest beats Oak Hill. If the Oaks happen to win that, West gets 2nd level points and Burg won’t since they didn’t play Oak Hill
Yeah, totally wasn’t thinking about West getting points for a Waverly win 🤣


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Ironton should have blown out burg….

See how that works?…. You can say wtv you want doesn’t make it true…

You probably think Burg “should have” beat Jackson and HP also right?


yabbadabbadoo wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:50 pm
SWHITE2002 wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:59 pm
art_vandelay wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 12:37 pm

"Some of the natives" don't understand that not playing Oak Hill was a gift for Burg. If you believe Drew Pasteur's site, it was the difference between Burg going on the road in first round of playoffs and now likely getting a home game. Probably also saved Burg from going back to Ironton in Round 2 of playoffs (instead of at a neutral site later) when looking at how the Region shaking out. While you can question the optics of turning down a replacement game with Pikeville, it was the right call for Burg.*
Is loosing at Harvest Prep any better than loosing at Ironton?


Who said they would lose at Ironton? Burg should have won the first meeting up there and i bet Ironton hopes the game is up there but I think Burg can surprise some people if they do play again.


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