SOC- OVC

[mattash]

what will the conferences look like with the move? OVC looking for a couple teams now

[mattash]

Football.

1 Green
2 East
3 Notre Dame
4 south gallia
5 symmes valley
6 eastern
7 oak hill???

soc2
1 waverly
2 burg
3 portsmouth
4 west
5 minford
6 valley
7 northwest
8 oak hill


ovc
1 rock hill
2 gallia
3 peake
4 fairland
5 coal grove
6 south point
7 oak hill??? Northwest Symmes Valley River Valley

[Zahns Corner]

Portsmouth to the SOC 2/3 makes perfect sense for the Trojans. Competition and county rivals make it long over due despite black balls from years gone bye. If the story is actual, the OVC needs a new member and Oak Hill would be a suspect. And as @mattash suggests, the move might trigger more changes in the SEO high school conference world.

[NYBuckeye96]

Who moved?

[TudorsGuy]

Who moved?

Portsmouth to SOC.

[GoBucks1047]

I think there's 2 moves the OVC can do, and I think there's 2 moves the SOC could do.

The OVC could target Oak Hill and River Valley to get to 8 members for football and 9 members for olympic sports. Pretty sensible, while helping both leagues + TVC Ohio stabilize and/or reduce travel.


The SOC could really screw over the OVC if they're looking at a power grab. Ironton and Gallia Academy with SOC II football splitting into 2 divisions of 5 geographically.

North:
Minford
Northwest
Oak Hill
Valley
Waverly

South:
Gallia Academy
Ironton
Portsmouth
West
Wheelersburg

Ironton might be willing to join that configuration, especially if only 1 crossover is required (but wouldn't count towards division/conf. standings) for scheduling purposes while giving teams the most flexibility how they wish to schedule. Let's say the required crossover is West-NW, Valley-Ports, Minford-Burg, Ironton-Waverly (Battle of the Tigers), and Gallia-OH. Of course, teams can schedule additional crossover games if desired. For olympic sports, SW and Eastern Pike move up for olympic sports for 2 divisions of 6 or could use 3 or 4 pods of 4 or 3 teams, SOC I sticks with 9 members in olympic, 6 for FB.

[BuckeyeBlood]

1 Green
2 East
3 Notre Dame
4 south gallia
5 symmes valley
6 eastern
7 oak hill???

soc2
1 waverly
2 burg
3 portsmouth
4 west
5 minford
6 portsmouth
7 valley
8 northwest


ovc
1 rock hill
2 gallia
3 peake
4 fairland
5 coal grove
6 south point
7 oak hill???

Portsmouth fielding 2 teams? lol

[oneoak]

A few years ago, when the SOC went to three divisions for most sports other than football, there was talk of adding larger schools so that there could be three divisions for football. One suggestion was that the SOC 1 would stay as is, and the SOC 2, if just one school were to be added, could split into two divisions of four, with two crossover games. That would make five games for each school with five non-league games.

Is that what is being proposed now?

[RollCoal]

I don’t see River Valley coming back to the OVC.

[CuckooNest]

If the SOC could pick off two of the three out of Rock Hill, South Point, and Fairland they could force a full SOC OVC merger. That would be the best outcome for all in my opinion.

[SEO Sports]

The SOC could call Ironton, Jackson, and Gallia to create a more even big division of the SOC

Gallia
Ironton
Jackson
Waverly
Wheelersburg
West

Hard to see Gallia, Waverly, West wanting the other three year after year.

[greygoose]

The SOC could call Ironton, Jackson, and Gallia to create a more even big division of the SOC

Gallia
Ironton
Jackson
Waverly
Wheelersburg
West

Hard to see Gallia, Waverly, West wanting the other three year after year.

Gallia would hang up the phone on this proposal, Waverly wants absolutely nothing to do with Jackson and Ironton, West wouldn't want anything to do with it if Waverly and Gallia weren't in. Waverly has talked about trying to get into the SVC a proposal like this would push them that way for sure even though I don't believe the SVC wants anything to do with Waverly unless they split into big and small divisions.

[SiderBlood]

The SOC could call Ironton, Jackson, and Gallia to create a more even big division of the SOC

Gallia
Ironton
Jackson
Waverly
Wheelersburg
West

Hard to see Gallia, Waverly, West wanting the other three year after year.

I love having a tough schedule and maybe in years past I would have been on board with this but this wouldn’t make any sense for West right now. We are set in at D6 right now and do not have the numbers in the school to have depth to go through this gauntlet.

[fball43]

The SOC could call Ironton, Jackson, and Gallia to create a more even big division of the SOC

Gallia
Ironton
Jackson
Waverly
Wheelersburg
West

Hard to see Gallia, Waverly, West wanting the other three year after year.

Gallia would hang up the phone on this proposal, Waverly wants absolutely nothing to do with Jackson and Ironton, West wouldn't want anything to do with it if Waverly and Gallia weren't in. Waverly has talked about trying to get into the SVC a proposal like this would push them that way for sure even though I don't believe the SVC wants anything to do with Waverly unless they split into big and small divisions.

Although Jackson would be greatly improving their travel situation, I am not too sure they would be interested in leaving the FAC unless the league folds. I think they are going to remain loyal to the FAC.

[greygoose]

The SOC could call Ironton, Jackson, and Gallia to create a more even big division of the SOC

Gallia
Ironton
Jackson
Waverly
Wheelersburg
West

Hard to see Gallia, Waverly, West wanting the other three year after year.

Gallia would hang up the phone on this proposal, Waverly wants absolutely nothing to do with Jackson and Ironton, West wouldn't want anything to do with it if Waverly and Gallia weren't in. Waverly has talked about trying to get into the SVC a proposal like this would push them that way for sure even though I don't believe the SVC wants anything to do with Waverly unless they split into big and small divisions.

Although Jackson would be greatly improving their travel situation, I am not too sure they would be interested in leaving the FAC unless the league folds. I think they are going to remain loyal to the FAC.

1 thing we've seen over the years is that Jackson is VERY loyal when it comes to the conference they we were in even as every team was jumping ship when they tried to bring back the SEAOL that was spread out over 1/2 the state they stayed true till the end. Jackson isn't going anywhere and why would they?? They're not the ones taking the brunt end of the beatings that some of these teams are taking.

[fball43]

Gallia would hang up the phone on this proposal, Waverly wants absolutely nothing to do with Jackson and Ironton, West wouldn't want anything to do with it if Waverly and Gallia weren't in. Waverly has talked about trying to get into the SVC a proposal like this would push them that way for sure even though I don't believe the SVC wants anything to do with Waverly unless they split into big and small divisions.

Although Jackson would be greatly improving their travel situation, I am not too sure they would be interested in leaving the FAC unless the league folds. I think they are going to remain loyal to the FAC.

1 thing we've seen over the years is that Jackson is VERY loyal when it comes to the conference they we were in even as every team was jumping ship when they tried to bring back the SEAOL that was spread out over 1/2 the state they stayed true till the end. Jackson isn't going anywhere and why would they?? They're not the ones taking the brunt end of the beatings that some of these teams are taking.

Spot on. Jackson is in a great situation. In all sports but football it’s a competitive league. For Jackson in football they can schedule pretty much whoever they want weeks 1-5 and then be guaranteed 5 easy wins in the 2nd half of the season. Rare exception being when another school in the league is occasionally a decent team, but even then it’s bare minimum 4 easy wins. They aren’t taking the beatings, so they don’t care!

Just because of their football success they will always be a team overlooked by other leagues. We see it all too often in Ohio… great football schools forced into independence because nobody wants them.

[Dundas]

Gallia would hang up the phone on this proposal, Waverly wants absolutely nothing to do with Jackson and Ironton, West wouldn't want anything to do with it if Waverly and Gallia weren't in. Waverly has talked about trying to get into the SVC a proposal like this would push them that way for sure even though I don't believe the SVC wants anything to do with Waverly unless they split into big and small divisions.

Although Jackson would be greatly improving their travel situation, I am not too sure they would be interested in leaving the FAC unless the league folds. I think they are going to remain loyal to the FAC.

1 thing we've seen over the years is that Jackson is VERY loyal when it comes to the conference they we were in even as every team was jumping ship when they tried to bring back the SEAOL that was spread out over 1/2 the state they stayed true till the end. Jackson isn't going anywhere and why would they?? They're not the ones taking the brunt end of the beatings that some of these teams are taking.

Jackson was very loyal to the SEOAL but let’s not forget they tried to jump ship to the TVC when they SEOAL started losing some of the outer edge schools. Jackson petitioned 3 times to the TVC before they became independent.

[MisterGalliaGuy2016]

I am once again beating the GA to the TVC drum.

Although I'd love to see a league with Athens, GA, Jackson, Ironton, Burg, and Chillicothe.. Won't ever happen again. But.... we could call it....the SOSEL. Same Old Southeast League.

[Dundas]

I am once again beating the GA to the TVC drum.

Although I'd love to see a league with Athens, GA, Jackson, Ironton, Burg, and Chillicothe.. Won't ever happen again. But.... we could call it....the SOSEL. Same Old Southeast League.

Bring on Gallia and the TSL.

TVC Ohio
Athens
Gallia
Marietta
Meigs
Nelsonville York
Point Pleasant
Vinton County
Warren

TVC Hocking
Alexander
Belpre
Eastern
Fed Hock
Fort Frye
River Valley
Southern
Trimble
Waterford
Wellston

[MisterGalliaGuy2016]

I am once again beating the GA to the TVC drum.

Although I'd love to see a league with Athens, GA, Jackson, Ironton, Burg, and Chillicothe.. Won't ever happen again. But.... we could call it....the SOSEL. Same Old Southeast League.

Bring on Gallia and the TSL.

TVC Ohio
Athens
Gallia
Marietta
Meigs
Nelsonville York
Point Pleasant
Vinton County
Warren

TVC Hocking
Alexander
Belpre
Eastern
Fed Hock
Fort Frye
River Valley
Southern
Trimble
Waterford
Wellston

Would be a solid league for sure. Not too ridiculous of travel times either. One thing a lot of people forget when brainstorming realignments (looking at you, Big Ten and ACC) is how it will affect the non-revenue sports. Meaning sports other than football, and to a much lesser extent, boys/men's basketball. Yeah, an hour and a half trip to Lancaster isn't terrible on a Friday night, but when you're making that trip once or twice a year during the weeknights, per sport, the cost and the mental fatigue on the kids will both skyrocket.

And at the end of the day, they are *student* athletes. Student being the key word there.