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hegotgame wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:00 pm
TigerBob wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:14 pm I looked earlier and had Prep as possible 1 seed. L1 divisor of 8 and L2 of 78 really means they need not as many points. Lots out there for them over the next two weeks.
I have prep at 23.715 but my math may be off.
I’ll lay it out in a post later. I did a very rough run through earlier.


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SciotoCfootball wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:16 pm
portsmouth_98 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:12 pm I started running some stuff through cal preps. With a loss at Ironton and nothing crazy happening we are probably going to Minford week 11.
Does that include Col. Academy or Minford getting another loss? Cause I think those odds are decent.
Yes, I think Prep probably ends up #1


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DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:45 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:34 am
gobucs20 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:30 am Is the Ridgewood starting qb back ?
I know it was his first game back but they barely escaped with a win last night against Indian valley
Indian valley is a solid team. Not elite but certainly not bad. Should have a shot in D4 region 15 against almost anyone in region. Tingle obviously coming off shoulder injury hasn’t been asked to play his typical game. Very limited use in run game in attempt to keep him healthy. Wood was up 17-0 driving with chance to make it 24-0 with 9 minutes in 4th. IV intercepted a Tingle pass and converted possession into a Td. Wood reeled a bit from there with a fumble which led to another score. As for the “barely” won comment, Ironton barely escaped Fairland with a win, so not sure what point you are trying to get across.
Your not wrong even though we were not talking about ironton sure and they were playing with backup QB not the starter Fairland is a solid team also not elite but not bad as well


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BuckNuts24 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:08 pm
DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:06 pm
wobycat wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:53 pm

Ironton and every other team in 19 don’t want to see wood in the playoffs. Ironton got lucky last year when tingle got hurt. They are the only team i thought would give kirtland a run for their money.
Wood is solid team and on right night can compete with anyone in region. They are not last years Wood team. Both D Tackles got in the osu game today along with Ironton’s own Reid Carrico. Lost 4 of 5 starters on Oline and 3 of 4 on Dline along with their best linebacker/running back. But a healthy Tingle, still not there yet, makes them a team you wouldn’t wanna see until you had to.
I think Ironton is deeper and more talented this season.
Agreed!!

D is much more stellar & Aggressive.

QB on pointe after sitting out 3-4 games.(not sure if 3 or 4 he missed).
Pushing mid 650 yards in passing since he returned.

Backfield is more diverse & had to be reimagined after leading rusher and upper tier D1 recruit exited the squad 4 days b4 game 1 kickoff.


Harvest prep is the juggernaut. IMO


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Tjhtygeverve wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:20 pm
BuckNuts24 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:08 pm
DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:06 pm

Wood is solid team and on right night can compete with anyone in region. They are not last years Wood team. Both D Tackles got in the osu game today along with Ironton’s own Reid Carrico. Lost 4 of 5 starters on Oline and 3 of 4 on Dline along with their best linebacker/running back. But a healthy Tingle, still not there yet, makes them a team you wouldn’t wanna see until you had to.
I think Ironton is deeper and more talented this season.
Agreed!!

D is much more stellar & Aggressive.

QB on pointe after sitting out 3-4 games.(not sure if 3 or 4 he missed).
Pushing mid 650 yards in passing since he returned.

Backfield is more diverse & had to be reimagined after leading rusher and upper tier D1 recruit exited the squad 4 days b4 game 1 kickoff.


Harvest prep is the juggernaut. IMO
Those stats are ballooned due to competition. I’ll wait until they fair defensively against Portsmouth. That one is at home so I think Portsmouth will be intimidated. So that might not be the best indicator


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wobycat wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:53 pm
DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:45 pm
MrFirstTake wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:34 am

I know it was his first game back but they barely escaped with a win last night against Indian valley
Indian valley is a solid team. Not elite but certainly not bad. Should have a shot in D4 region 15 against almost anyone in region. Tingle obviously coming off shoulder injury hasn’t been asked to play his typical game. Very limited use in run game in attempt to keep him healthy. Wood was up 17-0 driving with chance to make it 24-0 with 9 minutes in 4th. IV intercepted a Tingle pass and converted possession into a Td. Wood reeled a bit from there with a fumble which led to another score. As for the “barely” won comment, Ironton barely escaped Fairland with a win, so not sure what point you are trying to get across.
Ironton and every other team in 19 don’t want to see wood in the playoffs. Ironton got lucky last year when tingle got hurt. They are the only team i thought would give kirtland a run for their money.
All your opinion, sure not fact. I bet more more teams in 19 are more worried about facing Ironton than Ironton is about Ridgewood. We've beat them 2 years in a row, with and without Tingle, so we know for what we would be getting into. And my opinion is they wouldn't give Kirtland a run for their money no more than your Burg would.


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portsmouth_98 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:39 pm
SciotoCfootball wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:16 pm
portsmouth_98 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:12 pm I started running some stuff through cal preps. With a loss at Ironton and nothing crazy happening we are probably going to Minford week 11.
Does that include Col. Academy or Minford getting another loss? Cause I think those odds are decent.
Yes, I think Prep probably ends up #1
Boy I’m just not seeing it. I don’t see where I would’ve messed up that they catch an undefeated Ridgewood or a 9-1 ironton. They’ll be in the 25 pt range and prep will be in the 23’s. But obviously more cancellations would effect divisors even more.


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All your opinion, sure not fact. I bet more more teams in 19 are more worried about facing Ironton than Ironton is about Ridgewood. We've beat them 2 years in a row, with and without Tingle, so we know for what we would be getting into. And my opinion is they wouldn't give Kirtland a run for their money no more than your Burg would.
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Been stated several times but I’ll say it again to appease your feelings. Region runs through Ironton, as it should. By far most talented team, not even close. Been more talented than Kirtland last 2 years as well. Nobody else has D1 talent at multiple positions like they do. Kirtland has zero D1 talent.


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DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:29 pm
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All your opinion, sure not fact. I bet more more teams in 19 are more worried about facing Ironton than Ironton is about Ridgewood. We've beat them 2 years in a row, with and without Tingle, so we know for what we would be getting into. And my opinion is they wouldn't give Kirtland a run for their money no more than your Burg would.
Been stated several times but I’ll say it again to appease your feelings. Region runs through Ironton, as it should. By far most talented team, not even close. Been more talented than Kirtland last 2 years as well. Nobody else has D1 talent at multiple positions like they do. Kirtland has zero D1 talent.
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[quote=Frankie
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All your opinion, sure not fact. I bet more more teams in 19 are more worried about facing Ironton than Ironton is about Ridgewood. We've beat them 2 years in a row, with and without Tingle, so we know for what we would be getting into. And my opinion is they wouldn't give Kirtland a run for their money no more than your Burg would.
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Been stated several times but I’ll say it again to appease your feelings. Region runs through Ironton, as it should. By far most talented team, not even close. Been more talented than Kirtland last 2 years as well. Nobody else has D1 talent at multiple positions like they do. Kirtland has zero D1 talent.


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DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:31 pm [quote=Frankie
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All your opinion, sure not fact. I bet more more teams in 19 are more worried about facing Ironton than Ironton is about Ridgewood. We've beat them 2 years in a row, with and without Tingle, so we know for what we would be getting into. And my opinion is they wouldn't give Kirtland a run for their money no more than your Burg would.
Been stated several times but I’ll say it again to appease your feelings. Region runs through Ironton, as it should. By far most talented team, not even close. Been more talented than Kirtland last 2 years as well. Nobody else has D1 talent at multiple positions like they do. Kirtland has zero D1 talent.
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You don't have to appease my feelings wood, my reply was directed to someone else, not you. and I am not knocking your program, Kirtland is on a different level. That's a fact.


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frankie wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:52 pm
DaWoodSoldier wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:31 pm [quote=Frankie
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All your opinion, sure not fact. I bet more more teams in 19 are more worried about facing Ironton than Ironton is about Ridgewood. We've beat them 2 years in a row, with and without Tingle, so we know for what we would be getting into. And my opinion is they wouldn't give Kirtland a run for their money no more than your Burg would.
Been stated several times but I’ll say it again to appease your feelings. Region runs through Ironton, as it should. By far most talented team, not even close. Been more talented than Kirtland last 2 years as well. Nobody else has D1 talent at multiple positions like they do. Kirtland has zero D1 talent.

You don't have to appease my feelings wood, my reply was directed to someone else, not you. and I am not knocking your program, Kirtland is on a different level. That's a fact.
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No argument with the kirtland comment, but I stand by my comment that Ironton had more talent.


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Predictions after 8 weeks for playoff matchups:

1. Ironton
2. Ridgewood
3. Piketon
4. World Harvest
5. Wheelersburg
6. Amanda
7. Academy
8. Portsmouth
9. Minford
10.West
11. Zane Trace
12. Liberty Union
13. West Muskingum
14. Ready
15. Wellston
16. Northwest


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I'll go through top 4:

Piketon Current L1 30.5, Current L2 124, Divisors 9 and 89

Wins
Minford (Add 4 L2, W10 vs Valley)
Wellston (Add 4.5 L2, W9 vs Meigs, W10 vs Vinton for 5 more)
Valley
Zane Trace (Add 8, wins over PV and Adena)
Unioto (Add 8.5, wins over SE and Westfall)
Paint Valley (Add 4, win over SE)
Adena (Add 4 over Huntington)

Future Games
Westfall (Add 4.5 L1 and 4 L2)
Huntington (Add 4 L1 and 9 L2)

Projected 40 L1 points, divided by 9 = 4.4444
Projected 170 L2 points, divided by 89 times 10 = 19.1011
Projected Final Average 23.5455


Ridgewood Current L1 36 Current L2 116 Divisors 10 and 94

Wins
Coshocton (Add 5 L2, W10 over River View)
River View (Possible 5, W9 vs Maysville)
Marlington (Possible 5.5, W10 vs Alliance)
Dalton (Add 4, Possible 4 W10 vs Norwayne)
East Canton (Add 4 W9 over Buckeye Trail, Possible 3.5 W10 vs Malvern)
Tusky Valley
Sandy Valley (Add 4 W10 over Tusky Valley)
Indian Valley (Add 9, Wins over Tusky Valley and Claymont)

Future Games
Claymont (Add 5 L2, 4 L2)
Garaway (Add 4.5 L1, 39.5 L2 W9 Win over Sandy Valley)

Assuming Ridgewood over Garaway
Projected 45.5 L1, divided by 10 = 4.5500
Projected 185.5 L2, divided by 94 times 10 = 19.7340
Projected Final Average = 24.2840
Each L2 point is worth about a tenth in the final average, 10.5 extra L2 points pushes the projection to 25.4


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Ironton Current 31 L1, 114 L2, Divisors 10 and 93

Wins
Wheelersburg (Add 8.5 L2, Wins over Valley and West)
Jackson (Add 11 L2, wins over Miami Trace and Chillicothe)
Fairland (Add 8.5 L2, wins over CG and Chesapeake)
South Point
Chesapeake
Rock Hill (Add 4.5 L2, W9 over Chesapeake)
Coal Grove (Add 4.5 L2, W 10 over RH)

Future Games
Gallia (Add 5 L1 and 18.5 L2, W10 over SP)
Portsmouth (Add 4.5 L1 and 29.5 L2, W9 over SP)

Projected L1 40.5, divided by 10 = 4.0500
Projected L2 199, divided by 93 times 10 = 21.3978
Projected Final Average = 25.4478

Harvest Prep Current L1 25.5, 91 L2, Divisors 8 and 78)

Wins
Eastmoor (Add 6, W9 over Walnut Ridge, Possible 4 W10 Africentric, I'll Add 10)
Academy (Add 5 W9 over Bexley, Extra 1.5 if W10 over Whitehall)
Ready (Add 8, Wins over Grandview Heights and KIPP)
Bexley (Possible 4, W10 vs Grandview Heights)
Whitehall (Add 10, W9 over Buckeye Valley, W10 over Academy)

Future Games
Licking Heights (Add 6 L1, 14.5 L2 Plus 5 more with win over Licking Valley)
Buckeye Valley (Add 5.5 L1, Plus 26.5 L2, extra 0.5 W9 over Whitehall)

Projected 37 L1, divided by 8 = 4.6250
Projected 165 L2, divided by 78 times 10 = 21.1538
Projected Final Average 25.7788
LH over LV Projected Average = 26.4198


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Re: Region 19

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Harvest Prep Projected Final Average = 25.7788
Ironton Projected Final Average = 25.4478
Ridgewood Projected Final Average = 24.2840
Piketon Projected Final Average = 23.5455

Ironton and Piketon are pretty easy, both are sweeping league and nonconference wins are pretty easy to guess how they'll fare last two weeks.
Ridgewood has a lot of flexibility, need about 10-11 more L2 points to top Ironton with a few chances to get them
Prep seems to be in driver seat unless I've missed something, the 25.7 projection is a worst case scenario if they win out, hard to see Ironton getting there and Ridgewood would need a lot of help

Hard to see Wheelersburg getting to Piketon with only 7 wins, they'd finish with an L1 average of 3.4, meaning they'd need an L2 average of at least 20, which means 190 or more L2, hard to see them picking up 90 more L2 points in final 2 weeks. Ridgewood would be in the 19s or 20s with a loss to Garaway, I'd think Wheelersburg finishes around 20, so that would be close, which determines who would travel W12.


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hegotgame wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:29 pm
portsmouth_98 wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:39 pm
SciotoCfootball wrote: Sat Oct 09, 2021 5:16 pm

Does that include Col. Academy or Minford getting another loss? Cause I think those odds are decent.
Yes, I think Prep probably ends up #1
Boy I’m just not seeing it. I don’t see where I would’ve messed up that they catch an undefeated Ridgewood or a 9-1 ironton. They’ll be in the 25 pt range and prep will be in the 23’s. But obviously more cancellations would effect divisors even more.
I had them at 26.5 , I'll look at it again and make sure I didn't make any obvious blunders. I have their final divisor at 77 which will push their points significantly up.


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Harvest Prep......7-1 37.0 168.5 77 26.5081
Ironton...........9-1 40.5 195.5 90 25.7722
Piketon...........9-0 39.0 170.5 87 23.4977
Ridgewood.........9-1 40.5 149.5 93 20.1253

Wheelersburg......7-3 33.0 153.0 95 19.4053
Clearcreek........7-3 35.0 129.0 97 16.7990
Cols. Academy.....6-4 26.5 117.5 95 15.0184
Minford...........6-3 26.5 91.0 87 13.4042

Portsmouth........7-3 29.5 93.0 93 12.9500
Zane Trace........7-3 31.0 78.0 96 11.2250
Portsmouth West...5-5 21.0 84.0 97 10.7598
Bishop Ready.....5-5 24.0 80.0 96 10.7333

Liberty Union.....5-5 24.0 70.0 98 9.5429
West Muskingum....7-3 31.0 54.0 90 9.1000
Northwest.........5-5 18.0 55.5 90 7.9667
Wellston..........5-5 23.5 46.5 94 7.2968
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Piketon cant get to 10-0, would be 9-0.


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eagles73Taylor wrote: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:18 am Piketon cant get to 10-0, would be 9-0.
Thanks, fixed.


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