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Northwest is 1-1. Is it a down year? Or will they win the SOC?


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Odd question. Asking about a down year with only 2 games played, from a program that isnt known as a perennial winner. I would like to see them win an outright SOC1 title before they move back up to SOC2, but not too sure. I almost feel like the football field was built on a Native American burial ground.


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NW97 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:55 pm Odd question. Asking about a down year with only 2 games played, from a program that isnt known as a perennial winner. I would like to see them win an outright SOC1 title before they move back up to SOC2, but not too sure. I almost feel like the football field was built on a Native American burial ground.
Indian burial mound or some other voodo has hexed the Mohawk program since its inception. Per Mr. Rick Baker's Fourseasonsfootball research website, Northwest has an all time record of 190-400-2. I count only 8 winning seasons since NW started football in 1959. Many blame the district's geography and demographics. There may be simple lack of support from the school admin and community. All or the above or none of the above. Whatever the reasons, the kids in that district need something good to happen to break the cycle.

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if they can't win in the conference they're in being a monster school playing the lil sisters of the poor. Then something is definitely wrong.


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I agree. But what is it? I feel like they have had some decent coaches out there that are invested in the kids and want to build a winning program. From the outside looking in, seems like they have success at the jr high level, but then they don’t progress or keep improving as they get through high school. I don’t know if the kids lose interest or just peak in jr high every year?


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I feel bad for Northwest cause they're in a can't-win situation by playing in SOC I. If they dominate SOC I, everybody mad and demanding they be moved back to SOC II. If they don't win the conference, same people are asking "what's wrong with Northwest?" The numbers are good, the facilities have been upgraded, so now the next step for them is coaching stability. You simply cannot replace your head coach every 2-3 years and expect to ever build a program.

As a result of the numerous coaching changes, I see their pee wee and junior high teams over the years doing what they want in order to win games instead of having kids running offense/defense they'll be playing in high school. This will lead to pee wee super bowls/junior high wins, but will it lead to high school success? Give the current coach 4-5 years to build up the program and start working with the pee wee/junior high levels and you'll likely see some long-term success there.*


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Exactly.


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transplant wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:33 am I agree. But what is it? I feel like they have had some decent coaches out there that are invested in the kids and want to build a winning program. From the outside looking in, seems like they have success at the jr high level, but then they don’t progress or keep improving as they get through high school. I don’t know if the kids lose interest or just peak in jr high every year?


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Defense is getting tuff.Newmans getting his confidence.A WIN streak is on the horizon.Lotta talent on this team.Coach em up and get their confidence up to the next level.MOHAWK NATION 🏈🏈🏈
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Omega wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:23 pm
NW97 wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:55 pm Odd question. Asking about a down year with only 2 games played, from a program that isnt known as a perennial winner. I would like to see them win an outright SOC1 title before they move back up to SOC2, but not too sure. I almost feel like the football field was built on a Native American burial ground.
Indian burial mound or some other voodo has hexed the Mohawk program since its inception. Per Mr. Rick Baker's Fourseasonsfootball research website, Northwest has an all time record of 190-400-2. I count only 8 winning seasons since NW started football in 1959. Many blame the district's geography and demographics. There may be simple lack of support from the school admin and community. All or the above or none of the above. Whatever the reasons, the kids in that district need something good to happen to break the cycle.

http://fourseasonsfootball.com/oh.html
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They had a chance to hirer the legendary coach and didn’t. He ended up going to Notre Dame and then Burg and the rest is history. Norm Persin coached girls basketball there for 1 year also.


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Northwest has a similar issue that River Valley does. There’s a lot of small towns/hamlets that make up their District which is spread out over a fairly large and sparsely populated area. It’s hard to have an identity when there’s not one to build around. A lot of really good people in the area but if I live on the Adams County line and on a farm, my chances of playing football are slim to none. They’re still building something there. Rome wasn’t built in a day. I think that if their current staff is given some time, they’ll move in the right direction. Plus, you have to factor in that the soccer program at Northwest is typically pretty darn good.


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Jason Vorhees wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:28 pm Northwest has a similar issue that River Valley does. There’s a lot of small towns/hamlets that make up their District which is spread out over a fairly large and sparsely populated area. It’s hard to have an identity when there’s not one to build around. A lot of really good people in the area but if I live on the Adams County line and on a farm, my chances of playing football are slim to none. They’re still building something there. Rome wasn’t built in a day. I think that if their current staff is given some time, they’ll move in the right direction. Plus, you have to factor in that the soccer program at Northwest is typically pretty darn good.
They've been "building" a program for 25 to 30 years and it's not built yet. It is what it is. Plus, other schools have good soccer and football programs simultaneously. if the district is spread out and sparsely populated, why can the kids make it to soccer and be good but they cant make it to football and be good?


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Hope NW turns the corner one of these days, I really do, but the same excuses they use are old.


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They are too big to play in SOC 1. Numbers are there... reflecting is need as to why they always lose. Playing down is not the answer.


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RelaxGoat wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:16 pm They are too big to play in SOC 1. Numbers are there... reflecting is need as to why they always lose. Playing down is not the answer.
From a size stand point they are to big to be in SOC1, which brings up the question why can't they win SOC1?? Think they may have won it 1 time maybe and have faced more losing seasons while in SOC1 play then winning seasons. They've got a large group of kids right now on the team and if I'm Northwest and I can't win a SOC1 title with what they have over the next 1-2-3 years then they really need to take a hard look inside and find out do they have the right guys in place. I mean after seeing them only beat ND 10-6, how do we evaluate that?? Is ND that much improved or has Northwest plateaued to the point that they're going to go into the Symmes Valley and Eastern Pike games as the underdog?? I mean this team only graduated a handful of players and didn't need to replace any significant player.


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Passing on Miller would definitely put in a league with the Boston Red Sox.


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The number of kids enrolled at the school should not determine what conference you are in. If that was the case valley would have to move down and I guarantee if you ask the other soc 1 schools who they would rather have none would choose valley. Northwest just makes more sense competitively in the soc 1.


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Maybe they should replace Ironton in the OVC


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I’ve always said they should not be in soc 1. Not taking anything away from them but one of the biggest schools in the county in a conference with the smallest schools in the county.


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RelaxGoat wrote: Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:51 pm Northwest is 1-1. Is it a down year? Or will they win the SOC?
Northwest defense is lights out tough.offence getting their swagger.so much talent.Brackman top fullback around with Campbell and Rivers and Lintz at running backs.Conner Lintz catches everything.special teams and depth.Coach em up and 5-1 going into playoffs should come to light.


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