Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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Re: WK5 VALLEY VS NORTHWEST

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jujubean wrote: Sat Sep 17, 2022 3:57 pm NW97, couple of things- Valley although a small school has played in the SOC2 since 2006. In 2005 Valley won the SOC 1 (11-2, 5-0) and played Northwest, Minford, Wheelersburg and Waverly as part of their non-conference. I don't think "gate money" is why they stay.

As far as athletes going to different schools that live in NW district - not sure who they are but maybe one should ask the question to why that happens and try and fix it.
I wish I knew why they go elsewhere. There is around 150 kids that go to other schools from the district across all of the grades. One of them is Valleys QB. I can't say for sure about the ticket sales, just something I was told. I don't know why they wouldn't want to move to SOC1, makes sense by the size of the school.


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Re: WK5 VALLEY VS NORTHWEST

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NW97, I think your right about enrollment size. SOC 1 makes sense. However, the other small schools probably wouldn't allow it. In other sports, playing the small schools doesn't provide the competition that SOC2 provides night in and night out. However, if I'm not mistaken Valley is in small school soccer conference. Don't know why, but I've never understood the SOC.


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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Valley 22 - 37 Northwest


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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For someone to say Valley was in the SOC I to get confidence in their players i just laugh. Valley never struggled in the SOC I and played pretty much every SOC II team. Numerous undefeated/playoff teams. When was the last time NW made the playoffs and please do not count the covid year because everybody made the "playoffs". Big difference in NW dropping down compared to Valley playing in the SOC I. Valley just does not have the numbers as they used to here recently. I think the classes coming up will make a difference but as of now they are struggling with numbers.


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sportsfan2244 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:10 am For someone to say Valley was in the SOC I to get confidence in their players i just laugh. Valley never struggled in the SOC I and played pretty much every SOC II team. Numerous undefeated/playoff teams. When was the last time NW made the playoffs and please do not count the covid year because everybody made the "playoffs". Big difference in NW dropping down compared to Valley playing in the SOC I. Valley just does not have the numbers as they used to here recently. I think the classes coming up will make a difference but as of now they are struggling with numbers.
Some people just don't know what their talking about.
I would like to see them go to three divisions in the SOC.


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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3 divisions would be good and were stating i don't know what I'm talking about?


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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sportsfan2244 wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:36 pm 3 divisions would be good and were stating i don't know what I'm talking about?
Sorry! I worded that wrong. I was meaning who ever said that about Valley.


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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3 divisions would make alot of sense. SOC 2 is so different top to bottom. Neither Northwest or Valley have much of a chance at an SOC 2 title.


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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Who would be in the 3 divisions? Why make a 3rd division and not a new conference? Isnt Valley a Division 6 school now and NW a Division 5. So it makes sense that they would switch. Most of SOC 1 is VI and VII.


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SOCobserver wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:03 pm Who would be in the 3 divisions? Why make a 3rd division and not a new conference? Isnt Valley a Division 6 school now and NW a Division 5. So it makes sense that they would switch. Most of SOC 1 is VI and VII.
Northwest is very close to dropping to Division 6 as was West.
The cutoff is 153 and Northwest and West is both at 160.
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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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I think Valley was originally put into Soc 1 due to enrollment when the Soc went from one to two divisions in the late 70’s early 80’s. Northwest , Oak Hill and possibly Valley (if the current trend continues)are kind of in no mans land as far as Soc Football. They are on the smaller end of the Soc 2 and haven’t been competitive but are also too big for the Soc 1.

Enrollment figures
Soc 2
Waverly 240
Wheelersburg 176
Minford 167
Northwest 160
West 160
Oak Hill 147
Valley 122

Soc 1
Eastern 109
Symmes Valley 94
South Gallia 75
Green 65
Notre Dame 48
Sciotoville 41

Non football schools
Western 93
South Webster 86
Clay 52
New Boston 40


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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No way I see valley dropping. If they drop I drop. You are challenged every single day of your life. Get used to it. Learn to fight your way thru adversity. Cutting and running to another team or job teaches you nothing. Stand your ground!!! Fight!


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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Not too many live by that anymore


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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Soc2 numbers would look pretty good if you get rid of wavelry and Burg


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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Rumor is Waverly to FAC but of course its a rumor, May happen in the next 2-3 years.
That would force Wburg to make a decision on what they want, especially at a football standpoint. They may be better off trying to go to the OVC with Ironton Fairland, gallia CG and Portsmouth giving them a better game then most other SOC 2 schools.


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Re: Valley 22 - 37 Northwest 2022

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baseball16 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:07 am Rumor is Waverly to FAC but of course its a rumor, May happen in the next 2-3 years.
That would force Wburg to make a decision on what they want, especially at a football standpoint. They may be better off trying to go to the OVC with Ironton Fairland, gallia CG and Portsmouth giving them a better game then most other SOC 2 schools.
It's not like Waverly and Burg have been trading the SOCs back and forth. Waverly one it once and all Burg the last 10 or so years. I dont know why Waverly would be the deciding factor for Burg to leave the Soc.


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