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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:22 am
Paulcrew wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am
RBH23 wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 pm

Back to back 7-3 seasons, and didn’t win the SOC this year. By Burg standards, these are down years.

As for next year, I’ve heard the team will be very good. Much more dynamic on offense.
agree 100% here. I expect the Burg to be right back to battling for a regional title in 2023. I would be shocked if Burg doesnt win the SOC next season. Has it ever happened in last 25 years, that Burg not win the conference two years in a row? I would wager on them. Would be shocked if the didnt improve to at least 8-2 regular season or maybe 9-1.
Yes.

2000, 2001, 2002
2008, 2009
2011, 2012, 2013

That said, I agree that they will be the favorites next year.
2008 Woodwards first year, took a few seasons to get this thing rolling. 2011-13 were some down years talent wise AND Valley had their best teams ever.


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:22 am
Paulcrew wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am
RBH23 wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 6:20 pm

Back to back 7-3 seasons, and didn’t win the SOC this year. By Burg standards, these are down years.

As for next year, I’ve heard the team will be very good. Much more dynamic on offense.
agree 100% here. I expect the Burg to be right back to battling for a regional title in 2023. I would be shocked if Burg doesnt win the SOC next season. Has it ever happened in last 25 years, that Burg not win the conference two years in a row? I would wager on them. Would be shocked if the didnt improve to at least 8-2 regular season or maybe 9-1.
Yes.

2000, 2001, 2002
2008, 2009
2011, 2012, 2013

That said, I agree that they will be the favorites next year.

Thanks for reply. I did not know that.


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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Sonny Weaver wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:49 am
RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:22 am
Paulcrew wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 10:51 am

agree 100% here. I expect the Burg to be right back to battling for a regional title in 2023. I would be shocked if Burg doesnt win the SOC next season. Has it ever happened in last 25 years, that Burg not win the conference two years in a row? I would wager on them. Would be shocked if the didnt improve to at least 8-2 regular season or maybe 9-1.
Yes.

2000, 2001, 2002
2008, 2009
2011, 2012, 2013

That said, I agree that they will be the favorites next year.
2008 Woodwards first year, took a few seasons to get this thing rolling. 2011-13 were some down years talent wise AND Valley had their best teams ever.
Those weren’t down yrs. They just couldn’t beat valley. They put up huge offense numbers. They had a ton of talent.


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fbnut wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pm
Sonny Weaver wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:49 am
RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:22 am

Yes.

2000, 2001, 2002
2008, 2009
2011, 2012, 2013

That said, I agree that they will be the favorites next year.
2008 Woodwards first year, took a few seasons to get this thing rolling. 2011-13 were some down years talent wise AND Valley had their best teams ever.
Those weren’t down yrs. They just couldn’t beat valley. They put up huge offense numbers. They had a ton of talent.
Burg had very low participation rate in those senior classes. Decent talent but lack of numbers.


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:57 pm
fbnut wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pm
Sonny Weaver wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:49 am

2008 Woodwards first year, took a few seasons to get this thing rolling. 2011-13 were some down years talent wise AND Valley had their best teams ever.
Those weren’t down yrs. They just couldn’t beat valley. They put up huge offense numbers. They had a ton of talent.
Burg had very low participation rate in those senior classes. Decent talent but lack of numbers.
2008 Woodward's first season - Lang (QB) tears ACL
2009 Staff still trying to figure it out (tons of talent, definitely underachieved)
2010 B Schankweiler and Stegman only play makers
2011 Shears only "dude" on the team
2012 young E Miller, D Miller and T Claxon
2013 young guys were finally upperclassmen but ran into stud Valley team.


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Sonny Weaver wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:17 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:57 pm
fbnut wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pm
Those weren’t down yrs. They just couldn’t beat valley. They put up huge offense numbers. They had a ton of talent.
Burg had very low participation rate in those senior classes. Decent talent but lack of numbers.
2008 Woodward's first season - Lang (QB) tears ACL
2009 Staff still trying to figure it out (tons of talent, definitely underachieved)
2010 B Schankweiler and Stegman only play makers
2011 Shears only "dude" on the team
2012 young E Miller, D Miller and T Claxon
2013 young guys were finally upperclassmen but ran into stud Valley team.
2009 and 2010 teams lost to Fredericktown in the playoffs at least one was a Regional final I believe….. 2013 lost to Bishop Hartley in the Regional final


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I remember hearing rumblings during the 2011 and 2012 football seasons (maybe only the '12 season) about a little rivalry or conflict with the baseball success...and I remember a few young men who definitely would have been contributors that didn't play football then.


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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Sonny Weaver wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:17 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:57 pm
fbnut wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:47 pm
Those weren’t down yrs. They just couldn’t beat valley. They put up huge offense numbers. They had a ton of talent.
Burg had very low participation rate in those senior classes. Decent talent but lack of numbers.
2008 Woodward's first season - Lang (QB) tears ACL
2009 Staff still trying to figure it out (tons of talent, definitely underachieved)
2010 B Schankweiler and Stegman only play makers
2011 Shears only "dude" on the team
2012 young E Miller, D Miller and T Claxon
2013 young guys were finally upperclassmen but ran into stud Valley team.
I think there is an interview somewhere where Woodward said the 09 team was the most talented team he had coached


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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Curious what makes people think Wheelersburg is the odds on favorite to win the league next year.

Significant losses in skill and size. They probably lost more than anyone and they weren’t the most talented to start with.

The Sophomores to be don’t look physically ready to play at the Varsity level and with the schedule they play may be beat up by conference time.

Waverly, Minford, and West return more Varsity talent.


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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fbnut wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 6:38 am
Sonny Weaver wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 1:17 pm
RBH23 wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:57 pm

Burg had very low participation rate in those senior classes. Decent talent but lack of numbers.
2008 Woodward's first season - Lang (QB) tears ACL
2009 Staff still trying to figure it out (tons of talent, definitely underachieved)
2010 B Schankweiler and Stegman only play makers
2011 Shears only "dude" on the team
2012 young E Miller, D Miller and T Claxon
2013 young guys were finally upperclassmen but ran into stud Valley team.
I think there is an interview somewhere where Woodward said the 09 team was the most talented team he had coached
yea I remember reading that this past preseason. Definitely had a ton of talent on that team, two 1000 yard rushers. I believe Woodward was calling plays on offense then too.

Tyler Lang
Tyler Craigmiles
Nick Kemper
Scottie Walker
CJ Adkins
Brandon Hall
Zach Foose Frowine
Brandon Schankweiler
Drew Parsley
Andy Stegman
Jeb Conkey
Joey Reinhardt
Danny Hudgel
Zaide Whitley
Alex Shears
even had Andrew Bendolph for the first half of the season lol

feels like I'm missing a few too - lost Regional Semis to the Freddies at NY. Big drive length of the field with time expiring. Schank (playing with a bum shoulder) fumbles at the 1. Tough one


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SWHITE2002 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 am Curious what makes people think Wheelersburg is the odds on favorite to win the league next year.

Significant losses in skill and size. They probably lost more than anyone and they weren’t the most talented to start with.

The Sophomores to be don’t look physically ready to play at the Varsity level and with the schedule they play may be beat up by conference time.

Waverly, Minford, and West return more Varsity talent.
Burg brings back much more than some realize. On O, Creed Warren returns (one of their best offensive weapons this past year). They also bring back others who have taken meaningful snaps at OL, WR and RB; talented kids. At QB, the sophomore to be is not the only possible choice. Stamper will be a senior, and he has started at QB before. As for the D, they return a lot of kids and will be the typical Burg D.

As for the other schools:
- West takes the biggest hit with Sissell (sp?) and their QB graduating. Plus, they play Burg at Burg.
- Waverly could have a good team, but Burg blew their doors off last year, and the game is at Burg where Waverly has not had much success.
- Minford could be the team to watch given that they bring back some young talent, and the game is at Minford. Burg’s advantage once again will be in numbers. Can Minford hang for 4 quarters?

It’s tricky judging Burg like other SOC schools. Why? Burg has nearly twice the kids playing football. Any given year, Burg has kids on the bench that would be starting if at any other SOC school. The depth Burg has is an incredible advantage.


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SWHITE2002 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 am Curious what makes people think Wheelersburg is the odds on favorite to win the league next year.

Significant losses in skill and size. They probably lost more than anyone and they weren’t the most talented to start with.

The Sophomores to be don’t look physically ready to play at the Varsity level and with the schedule they play may be beat up by conference time.

Waverly, Minford, and West return more Varsity talent.
Well The Burg has won the SOC 35 times in the last 50 years. That record of consistency is hard to pick against. The Burg has earned the benefit of the doubt until someone in the SOC2 can knock them off more than once every 5 years.


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RBH23 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:43 am
SWHITE2002 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 am Curious what makes people think Wheelersburg is the odds on favorite to win the league next year.

Significant losses in skill and size. They probably lost more than anyone and they weren’t the most talented to start with.

The Sophomores to be don’t look physically ready to play at the Varsity level and with the schedule they play may be beat up by conference time.

Waverly, Minford, and West return more Varsity talent.
Burg brings back much more than some realize. On O, Creed Warren returns (one of their best offensive weapons this past year). They also bring back others who have taken meaningful snaps at OL, WR and RB; talented kids. At QB, the sophomore to be is not the only possible choice. Stamper will be a senior, and he has started at QB before. As for the D, they return a lot of kids and will be the typical Burg D.

As for the other schools:
- West takes the biggest hit with Sissell (sp?) and their QB graduating. Plus, they play Burg at Burg.
- Waverly could have a good team, but Burg blew their doors off last year, and the game is at Burg where Waverly has not had much success.
- Minford could be the team to watch given that they bring back some young talent, and the game is at Minford. Burg’s advantage once again will be in numbers. Can Minford hang for 4 quarters?

It’s tricky judging Burg like other SOC schools. Why? Burg has nearly twice the kids playing football. Any given year, Burg has kids on the bench that would be starting if at any other SOC school. The depth Burg has is an incredible advantage.
He may be the only Qb option. The other kid was not on the roster at the end of the yr


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About 90% of burgs overall production were juniors last year. So they should come in with plenty of experience but offensive skill will be a mystery as of now. The seniors and juniors have a few skilled players that will do well. As their turn will be up. Thin at QB. Looks like the sophomore will be the one that will take over.


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wobycat wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:02 pm About 90% of burgs overall production were juniors last year. So they should come in with plenty of experience but offensive skill will be a mystery as of now. The seniors and juniors have a few skilled players that will do well. As their turn will be up. Thin at QB. Looks like the sophomore will be the one that will take over.
I think we will be just fine next year BUT this is probably the Dumbest comment you have ever posted on this site I mean 90% REALLY???


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Blitz wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:40 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:02 pm About 90% of burgs overall production were juniors last year. So they should come in with plenty of experience but offensive skill will be a mystery as of now. The seniors and juniors have a few skilled players that will do well. As their turn will be up. Thin at QB. Looks like the sophomore will be the one that will take over.
I think we will be just fine next year BUT this is probably the Dumbest comment you have ever posted on this site I mean 90% REALLY???
Probably lost about 90% of offensive production. I think they will be ok though. Should be able to run the offense they like running


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JTEK wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 1:45 pm
RBH23 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 10:43 am
SWHITE2002 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 9:37 am Curious what makes people think Wheelersburg is the odds on favorite to win the league next year.

Significant losses in skill and size. They probably lost more than anyone and they weren’t the most talented to start with.

The Sophomores to be don’t look physically ready to play at the Varsity level and with the schedule they play may be beat up by conference time.

Waverly, Minford, and West return more Varsity talent.
Burg brings back much more than some realize. On O, Creed Warren returns (one of their best offensive weapons this past year). They also bring back others who have taken meaningful snaps at OL, WR and RB; talented kids. At QB, the sophomore to be is not the only possible choice. Stamper will be a senior, and he has started at QB before. As for the D, they return a lot of kids and will be the typical Burg D.

As for the other schools:
- West takes the biggest hit with Sissell (sp?) and their QB graduating. Plus, they play Burg at Burg.
- Waverly could have a good team, but Burg blew their doors off last year, and the game is at Burg where Waverly has not had much success.
- Minford could be the team to watch given that they bring back some young talent, and the game is at Minford. Burg’s advantage once again will be in numbers. Can Minford hang for 4 quarters?

It’s tricky judging Burg like other SOC schools. Why? Burg has nearly twice the kids playing football. Any given year, Burg has kids on the bench that would be starting if at any other SOC school. The depth Burg has is an incredible advantage.
He may be the only Qb option. The other kid was not on the roster at the end of the yr
Didn’t know that. Sad to hear, but best of luck to the young man.

Guess it’s the sophomore’s job to lose…


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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Blitz wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:40 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:02 pm About 90% of burgs overall production were juniors last year. So they should come in with plenty of experience but offensive skill will be a mystery as of now. The seniors and juniors have a few skilled players that will do well. As their turn will be up. Thin at QB. Looks like the sophomore will be the one that will take over.
I think we will be just fine next year BUT this is probably the Dumbest comment you have ever posted on this site I mean 90% REALLY???
Well when I use the word “overall”, I mean it. I look at football from the entire lens, defense, and offensive line to special teams. Not who necessarily who has the ball in their hands at the time of scoring. Appreciate the comment though. I mean if you really read the post, comprehension has to come into play.


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fbnut wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:25 pm
Blitz wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:40 pm
wobycat wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:02 pm About 90% of burgs overall production were juniors last year. So they should come in with plenty of experience but offensive skill will be a mystery as of now. The seniors and juniors have a few skilled players that will do well. As their turn will be up. Thin at QB. Looks like the sophomore will be the one that will take over.
I think we will be just fine next year BUT this is probably the Dumbest comment you have ever posted on this site I mean 90% REALLY???
Probably lost about 90% of offensive production. I think they will be ok though. Should be able to run the offense they like running
Offensively lost:
Quarterback
Both Running Backs
Tight End
Only Legitimate Playmaker (Lattimore)
Both Guards

But they return 90%?

With their schedule they could be looking at a long year


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Re: Wheelersburg 2023

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SWHITE2002 wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:29 pm
fbnut wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 3:25 pm
Blitz wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 2:40 pm

I think we will be just fine next year BUT this is probably the Dumbest comment you have ever posted on this site I mean 90% REALLY???
Probably lost about 90% of offensive production. I think they will be ok though. Should be able to run the offense they like running
Offensively lost:
Quarterback
Both Running Backs
Tight End
Only Legitimate Playmaker (Lattimore)
Both Guards

But they return 90%?

With their schedule they could be looking at a long year
25 was a legit playmaker
Return salyers at TE
Return 2 starters on Oline and another one that played a lot as a sophomore and junior
29,25,21 all saw time in backfield
2 freshman saw time at wideout
D probably returns more than offense


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