Fixing Regions 23 and 27

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Re: Fixing Regions 23 and 27

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Dundas wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:47 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:37 pm
EasternDspy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:34 pm

How many players do they have?
The hell does that have to do with what I just said?

Beverly fans are just trying to come up with excuses.
Beverly is okay, but I'm partial to Dixon Ridge and Bear Creek.


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Re: Fixing Regions 23 and 27

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People just need to realize that kirtland is just a whole different animal and I doubt any team from our area will ever be able to beat them or ML valley gave kirtland a scare in their last run but since then it’s been a beat down


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EasternDspy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:54 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:37 pm
EasternDspy wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:34 pm

How many players do they have?
The hell does that have to do with what I just said?
No excuses just wondering how many rostered players they have ? I assume the younger kids play a ton in blowouts. That is huge.
They still have a ton. 70 or so.


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Re: Fixing Regions 23 and 27

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27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.


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Re: Fixing Regions 23 and 27

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formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:54 pm 27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?


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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am [quote=formerfcfan post_id=2041411 time=<a href="tel:1669683279">1669683279</a> user_id=132]
27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:54 pm 27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Region 27 started in 2017 no one has won the championship yet , since 2017 the Mac or kirtland has won 9 out of the 12 championships so everyone else has this same dilemma


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Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:30 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am [quote=formerfcfan post_id=2041411 time=<a href="tel:1669683279">1669683279</a> user_id=132]
27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:54 pm 27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Region 27 started in 2017 no one has won the championship yet , since 2017 the Mac or kirtland has won 9 out of the 12 championships so everyone else has this same dilemma
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In region 23 and 27 combined


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Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:31 am
Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:30 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am [quote=formerfcfan post_id=2041411 time=<a href="tel:1669683279">1669683279</a> user_id=132]
27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:54 pm 27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Region 27 started in 2017 no one has won the championship yet , since 2017 the Mac or kirtland has won 9 out of the 12 championships so everyone else has this same dilemma
In region 23 and 27 combined
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I know when 27 started, but I’m talking about the teams that now make up that region. Other than NC have any of them ever won it. Also, most years those teams get beaten in the rounds before the finals and they get beaten by teams that are not in the MAC. But you all keep saying, “ well no one else can beat Kirtland or the MAC” and see if that helps if you want. 😳


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I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.


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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:56 am I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.
If I rember correctly you are a nelsonville fan as you were trounced by Kirtland , so what is your fix?


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Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:56 am I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.
If I rember correctly you are a nelsonville fan as you were trounced by Kirtland , so what is your fix?
And as I said 23 and 27 combined


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Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:56 am I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.
If I rember correctly you are a nelsonville fan as you were trounced by Kirtland , so what is your fix?
So now you are hurling insults? Haha typical fan of team that has never sniffed a state title game. One step closer to a “fix” is stop making excuses.


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Re: Fixing Regions 23 and 27

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Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:10 am
Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:56 am I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.
If I rember correctly you are a nelsonville fan as you were trounced by Kirtland , so what is your fix?
And as I said 23 and 27 combined
And as I pointed out the teams in 27 rarely make it to a game with the MAC. But I see you missed that in your haste to make an excuse.


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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:54 pm 27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Irrelevant.


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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:34 am
Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:56 am I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.
If I rember correctly you are a nelsonville fan as you were trounced by Kirtland , so what is your fix?
So now you are hurling insults? Haha typical fan of team that has never sniffed a state title game. One step closer to a “fix” is stop making excuses.
I was not hurling insults or making excuses winner of 23 and 27 I said were not winning championship you are the one only pointing out 27 and I don’t here a fix from you


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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:34 am
Buckeye2021 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:09 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:56 am I actually just went back and checked and since R27 was created only one time has any team from that region faced a MAC team in the playoffs and none faced Kirtland, obviously as they are not in D7, so that excuse is moot.
If I rember correctly you are a nelsonville fan as you were trounced by Kirtland , so what is your fix?
So now you are hurling insults? Haha typical fan of team that has never sniffed a state title game. One step closer to a “fix” is stop making excuses.
I’m not sure getting blasted is sniffing a title either


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Izladoom wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 6:58 pm People just need to realize that kirtland is just a whole different animal and I doubt any team from our area will ever be able to beat them or ML valley gave kirtland a scare in their last run but since then it’s been a beat down
This.

I'm interested to know how many people in this discussion have actually seen Kirtland in person?

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formerfcfan wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:40 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am
formerfcfan wrote: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:54 pm 27’s dilemma has been that no one can get through NC or Trimble.
When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Irrelevant.
Irrelevant? He11 it’s the point of the thread isn’t it? LOL


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There’s no fix. Kirtland and Marion Local are just good programs. To win state, you have to go through them, that’s about all there is to it. I’ve seen Kirkland a few times and they are just a good solid program that is just historically better than everybody else. When you get the chance to play Kirtland or Marion Local you know you have had a great season. All you can ask for is a shot.


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Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:20 pm
formerfcfan wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:40 am
Pat wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 6:22 am

When’s the last time NC won a state championship? They got handled this year. Trimble, when they make the playoffs, usually get it handed to them at some point. Serious question, when was the last time any team from 27 won the state championship?
Irrelevant.
Irrelevant? He11 it’s the point of the thread isn’t it? LOL
I’m not seeing where NC’s lack of recent success at the state level has anything to do with the question of why Southeast Ohio teams (in this case, Region 27) don’t make a run to the state title.

I get OP’s question. Unfortunately the only earnest answer is, in the case of Region 27, it often runs through one school in particular (NC) that isn’t even considered SEO. The other years it’s been just Trimble. Region 27, formerly Region 23 back when it was just six divisions, has just been futile for the most part against them. Not one SEO team that won a regional title had beat NC in the playoffs the year said team made state semis, and NC only has three losses total to SEO teams in playoffs (Symmes Valley 2004, Bridgeport 2010, and Paint Valley 2015.) So for everyone else that isn’t Trimble, the question isn’t “why can’t you win a state title” but instead “why can’t you get that far?” Because it’s beside the point of measuring up against MSML and western Ohio when you can’t even make it out of the region.

Getting that far to state semi’s and state title: just comes down to whether you’ve got the talent and you’ve got the ability, or not, to win it. McComb had a few more dudes than Trimble. Simple as that.


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