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Reds reliever Michael Lorenzen is one of the strongest players on the team, with a fierce workout program he maintains year round and a track record of success from the bullpen. But on the mound in 2020, Lorenzen appears to have fallen and can't get back up. Brought in to replace starter Sonny Gray in a tie game in the 6th inning, Lorenzen faced 4 hitters, retired none of them and departed screaming into his glove. The Brewers scored 6 runs during a rally to hand the Reds a 9-3 loss. Through 7 appearances, Lorenzen has a 16.88 ERA with 10 earned runs,9 hits, 5 walks and 3 homeruns allowed through "51/3 inn." He has only retired the 1st batter that he has faced 2-times. He may be a swell guy, and no doubt the strongest guy on the team, but he probably does not have enough confidence at this stage, to even want to trot out to the mound.


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VetteMan wrote: Sun Aug 09, 2020 12:33 am Reds manager David Bell said that second basemen Mike Moustakas is nearing a return to the field. Moustakas could possibly return as early as Tuesday of next week. Moustakas has only played in seven games so far, logging 5-hits in 21 at bats. If he can get healthy, the Reds can most certainly use his bat in the lineup.
The Reds placed 2nd baseman Mike Moustakas on the 10-day injured list with a bruised left quad on Sunday, 5 days after he exited a game against the Indians in the 6th inning. The move is retroactive to last Thursday. The Reds filled Moustakas's spot on the 28 man roster with right-hander Tejay Antone, who was recalled from the training site.


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Lorenzen ? He has a head problem? And for a pitcher he's His worse enemy .


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Best thing for the bullpen is for the offense to score more runs. With the exception of a few games they very seldom score many runs leaving the bullpen no margin of error. The Reds have wasted a ton of great starting pitching by simply never getting a clutch hit to blow open a close game.


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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:50 am Best thing for the bullpen is for the offense to score more runs. With the exception of a few games they very seldom score many runs leaving the bullpen no margin of error. The Reds have wasted a ton of great starting pitching by simply never getting a clutch hit to blow open a close game.
Agree 100%, with the exception of a very few games, the offense has been pretty inconsistent as well, not quite as bad as the bullpen though. I also agree about the mental part of the game as far as Lorenzen is concerned, but in a 60 game season, just how often can you keep running him out there, with him being his own worst enemy. If it was a 162 game season, I would probably feel a little different. Believe it or not, we are already through a quarter of the season.


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He best get his sh*t together quick, because it's a 60 game track meet!


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With Lorenzen its simply location, location, location. When he misses he misses big but when he throws a strike it catches too much of the plate.
MLB players have proven that even if you throw 98/99 if it catches too much of the plate it's getting hit and sometimes hit far.


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Eugenio Suarez's home run Saturday traveled an estimated 427 feet. Suarez said he thought that was his best swing of the year. I've been working on trying to swing at balls that are strikes and put my best swing on it. Suarez hit 49 homeruns in 2019, but he has been off to a slow start to the 2020 season. It began with a 0-for-16 slump, but he's started getting some hits in the past week including 2 homeruns. I've been thinking about results, therefore I haven't been thinking about doing my job and just hitting the ball hard.


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The Reds are 16 games into this most unique 60 game season and finally have their first day off. Despite some great starting pitching, Cincinnati has yet to gain traction amid lineup and bullpen inconsistency. That has added up to a 7-9 record, when it could have very easily have been 10-6 if the bullpen had not let them down. With only 44 games to go in the season, they need to play much better than they have so far.


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That's is a fine group of coaches! And starting to sound like a fine pitching coach ??? Front office coaching !!!


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Hope they can put it all together.


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Four the first time in 2020, the Reds played extra innings, and got to experience the new rule that opens each half inning, by placing a runner on second base. Nick Senzel opened the bottom of the 10th on second base with the best portion of the lineup to follow. After Nick Castellanos leadoff walk, Joey Votto lifted a high double off the wall in centerfield, Senzel had to wait to see if it was caught, but he raced home in plenty of time for a 6-5 walk-off win over the Kansas City Royals on Tuesday night at Great American Ball Park. Lucas Sims pitched a scoreless top of the 10th for the win.


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VetteMan wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:10 am Four the first time in 2020, the Reds played extra innings, and got to experience the new rule that opens each half inning, by placing a runner on second base. Nick Senzel opened the bottom of the 10th on second base with the best portion of the lineup to follow. After Nick Castellanos leadoff walk, Joey Votto lifted a high double off the wall in centerfield, Senzel had to wait to see if it was caught, but he raced home in plenty of time for a 6-5 walk-off win over the Kansas City Royals on Tuesday night at Great American Ball Park. Lucas Sims pitched a scoreless top of the 10th for the win.


Tried to watch this. But the blue jackets were being shown same time.


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Joey Votto is known as one of the most thoughtful and introspective players in the game, Votto came to the plate in the bottom of the 10th inn with a chance to beat the Royals in a 5-5 tie game. The only problem being, was that he had never faced Josh Steaumont before. So Votto quickly hit the scouting report to familiarize himself a little with Steaumont. It must have worked out as Steaumont tried to sneak a first pitch fastball past Votto, but Votto was expecting it and drove it to the wall for a walk-off double to win the game.


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What a bottom of 7th tonight for the reds


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David Bell is simply in over his head. No way do you continue to make moves that take your better players out of the game and end up biting you later.


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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:52 pm David Bell is simply in over his head. No way do you continue to make moves that take your better players out of the game and end up biting you later.
Didn't see the game tonight, saw what was happening the last couple innings for the Reds. The Reds had plenty of late inning chances to come back and get a win tonight, but just couldn't get that clutch hit when they needed it. Kansas City escaped with a 5-4 win tonight, when the Reds had ample opportunity in both the 8th and the 9th innings, to either tie the game or take the lead. I agree with you about taking your better players out of the game, especially when you have been trailing since the first inning. That's why sometimes it will come back and bite you, and you then have a guy hitting .136 come to bat with 1 out and the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th.


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Tough one last night.


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TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:52 pm David Bell is simply in over his head. No way do you continue to make moves that take your better players out of the game and end up biting you later.
I've said it all along he made the same moves last season also. !


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Geronimo wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 7:39 am
TheFlyingDutchman wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:52 pm David Bell is simply in over his head. No way do you continue to make moves that take your better players out of the game and end up biting you later.
I've said it all along he made the same moves last season also. !
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Tonight instead of showing a little compassion for DeSclafani, ( It was very apparent from the start that he didn't have it tonight.) Bell leaves him in the game to be pummeled by one of the worst teams in baseball. Bell's substitution pattern confuses me a lot at times. Anthony DeSclafani was one reason that the rotation entered Thursday with a National League best 2.56 ERA, as he had allowed only 5 hits in 11 scoreless innings over his 1st two starts. Thursday was the exact opposite of that, as DeSclafani was bombarded by the Pirates and only lasted 2 innings during a 9-6 loss. The Pirates had a 3-13 MLB worst record, but hit DeSclafani hard from the get go, allowing a career high 9 runs on 9 hits including a trio of solo homeruns and 2 walks. It was also the shortest start of his big league career.


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