Kentucky Governor Beashear - Holiday Tree

[fuzzhead]

Muslims are NOT pagans, either.

Practicing Muslim admit the following about the origins of Islam:

1) The Hajj (pilgrimage) was practiced by pagans and adopted "as is" into Islam.

2) Moon worship was popular in pre-Islamic Arabia.

3) Lat, Uzza and Manat were worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia as the "daughters of Allah".

4) The "daughters of Allah" were worshipped as goddesses at the Kaba in Mecca in pre-Islamic times.

5) Allah was worshipped by Muhammad’s Quraish tribe at the Kaba as the top ranking god among many lower polytheistic gods.

6) Muhammad’s Quraish tribe also believed in a top ranking moon god called Hubal that was distinguished from Allah.

7) Muhammad’s Quraish tribe had put an idol called Habal either on the roof of the Kaba or inside it, in pre-Islamic times.

No practicing Islamic scholar admits that Allah was worshipped as a moon god in pre-Islamic times.

[IronTigerMum]

moose: Yer such a killer!

[kantuckyII]

moose: Yer such a killer!

It was one of his better ones! I admit!

[BubbleGumTiger]

TTT If I could get a tree like yours, I would put it up fer sure

It will take a while, at least a month for me to round up enuff bottles to make you a tree so I am going to recruit some help from the fellas at the Fort and maybe we can knock out that little chore in 2 weeks. I have some good friends who are top notch when it comes to collecting bottles......

do you prefer Goebel or Corona bottles........

[mstangmom]

How about 1/2 and 1/2

[The Instructor]

There will be no Holiday Trees in the trailer park this year............just the good ol Christmas tree we have had for years.......with lots of gifts..........and ornaments............

There must be a shortage of wise men.

No, they are short wise men.

[The Instructor]

How about 1/2 and 1/2

That is tobacco not beer!

[BubbleGumTiger]

There will be no Holiday Trees in the trailer park this year............just the good ol Christmas tree we have had for years.......with lots of gifts..........and ornaments............

There must be a shortage of wise men.

No, they are short wise men.

finally, someone with a little common sense who knows her stuff.......guess that's the reason you are a teacher.........

[BUCK I]

wow, Im so confused....All I know is that Im of Catholic faith, I know the TRUE meaning of Christmas is to celebrate the birth of Jesus, We have always and hope to continue to have a Christmas tree with lots of presents for the family, If I had to pick one person on this board that I most agree with their religion and values, Kantucky would be it without a doubt. This country is like it is today because of everyone yelling no religion in schools, etc. Well if you dont like the relgion or values of our founding fathers, get on a boat and find an island to live or PLEASE be quiet.

[my2cents]

Lemmings

Oh wait, you said you were Catholic, Never mind, no wonder you don't question pagan symbols like..Evergreen trees, Bunny rabbit, eggs, etc etc etc, Let's not forget it was the Catholic Church who incorportated all the pagan symbols into Chrisitianity to convert the heathens.

As for our founding fathers, try doing some research.

[mstangmom]

It's simple Buck I and really easy to understand.

We celibrate the birth od Jesus at Christmas.

We as humans need some sort of "Proof" to remind us of Jesus. So Dec. 25th of every year We put up a tree spend hundreds of dollars on things for ourselves and family members and say we are celebrating the birth of Jesus.

At some point in History and I would have to agree with my2cents on this some MAN decided putting up a tree, lights, and trading gifts to remind people of this birth would aide in bringing more people ot christ.
Don't know if it was a catholic or not really don't care. as I said we don't really celibrate christmas that way in our home. But I do have to agree putting up that tree and trading gifts and saying you are doing it to remember Christ is sort of like Idolarity.


Easter is sort of the same way instead it is used in rememberence of the death of jesus. this time a rabbit and eggs were used. Again it has been said that the catholics started this, again I don't care just as Christmas our family does not celebrate this with a rabbit and eggs. And again I have to agree the using the "symbols" of easter and saying you are doing this in remeberence od Jesus who died and rose again is sort of like idolarity.


What I do find funny is MOST christians put down Halloween, and have turned it into the "devils celibration" and yet it is the ONE time (minus the candy and costumes) we should be celebrating according to the Bible.

"Celebrate the Festival of the Harvest with the first produce harvested from whatever you plant in your fields. "Celebrate the Festival of the Final Harvest at the end of the year when you harvest your crops from the fields

Now here the question that always stumps people since we are on the subject of Idolarity.

Christians have a cross hanging in the church, we buy jewlery with a cross on it.

Yet the bible tells us NO IMAGES bbefore GOD. is not the CROSS a symbol? and Idol of sorts that is worshiped that we say we do for GOD?

[my2cents]

Just be glad that Jesus wasn't killed with an broad axe. That would not make very pretty jewelery.

[BUCK I]

It's simple Buck I and really easy to understand.

We celibrate the birth od Jesus at Christmas.

We as humans need some sort of "Proof" to remind us of Jesus. So Dec. 25th of every year We put up a tree spend hundreds of dollars on things for ourselves and family members and say we are celebrating the birth of Jesus.

Then.....put no tree at all on the lawn. Have no state and national holidays (you know, paid days) for Christmas and merchants who take this stand, let them not have or expect Christmas shoppers...

Lemmings

Oh wait, you said you were Catholic, Never mind, no wonder you don't question pagan symbols like..Evergreen trees, Bunny rabbit, eggs, etc etc etc, Let's not forget it was the Catholic Church who incorportated all the pagan symbols into Chrisitianity to convert the heathens.

As for our founding fathers, try doing some research.

At some point in History and I would have to agree with my2cents on this some MAN decided putting up a tree, lights, and trading gifts to remind people of this birth would aide in bringing more people ot christ.
Don't know if it was a catholic or not really don't care. as I said we don't really celibrate christmas that way in our home. But I do have to agree putting up that tree and trading gifts and saying you are doing it to remember Christ is sort of like Idolarity.


Easter is sort of the same way instead it is used in rememberence of the death of jesus. this time a rabbit and eggs were used. Again it has been said that the catholics started this, again I don't care just as Christmas our family does not celebrate this with a rabbit and eggs. And again I have to agree the using the "symbols" of easter and saying you are doing this in remeberence od Jesus who died and rose again is sort of like idolarity.


What I do find funny is MOST christians put down Halloween, and have turned it into the "devils celibration" and yet it is the ONE time (minus the candy and costumes) we should be celebrating according to the Bible.

"Celebrate the Festival of the Harvest with the first produce harvested from whatever you plant in your fields. "Celebrate the Festival of the Final Harvest at the end of the year when you harvest your crops from the fields

Now here the question that always stumps people since we are on the subject of Idolarity.

Christians have a cross hanging in the church, we buy jewlery with a cross on it.

Yet the bible tells us NO IMAGES bbefore GOD. is not the CROSS a symbol? and Idol of sorts that is worshiped that we say we do for GOD?

Lemmings

Oh wait, you said you were Catholic, Never mind, no wonder you don't question pagan symbols like..Evergreen trees, Bunny rabbit, eggs, etc etc etc, Let's not forget it was the Catholic Church who incorportated all the pagan symbols into Chrisitianity to convert the heathens.

As for our founding fathers, try doing some research.

Im just amazed that there is such "perfect'" humand still waking the face of this earth.

[my2cents]

Buck, your really hard to follow, I am sure you are trying to make a point, we just can't figure out what it is.