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Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:16 am
by 2quick2catch
Piketon bailed out again, it will take more then that next week.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:25 am
by LucasDavenport
Might be a good thing for the kid in the long run. Growth opportunity. It doesn’t matter if he was right or wrong —- he put himself above the team for a few seconds and it Cost the team. The referee is in charge. My coach used to say — “ if you reach then you give the referee an option — he might call a foul on you simply to get you to stop reaching”. If you keep your mouth shut then there’s no problem. You ever notice the really great refs will call a foul early —- like when a player gets a rebound and the defender closest reaches in — a good referee calls that and stops the action. In A junior high Game this runs rampant.

The referees at The Convo in District play are our best. They do a very good job.

My first year coaching varsity I thought we were getting homered. The refs ignored me. When I said something to the AD about paying them — he replied — “ they might have been bad but they were better than that team you put on the floor “. He was right. Shut me up quick.

The refs have less missed calls than turnovers by the teams. They do fine.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:26 am
by greygoose
2quick2catch wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:16 am Piketon bailed out again, it will take more then that next week.
How'd they get bailed out?? Because Alex crumbled under the pressure?? By saying bailed out you're implying they had nothing to do with Alex falling apart in that 4th quarter. Guess someone else was shooting for them too.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:29 am
by 93Bulldog
LucasDavenport wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:25 amMy first year coaching varsity I thought we were getting homered. The refs ignored me. When I said something to the AD about paying them — he replied — “ they might have been bad but they were better than that team you put on the floor “. He was right. Shut me up quick.

The refs have less missed calls than turnovers by the teams. They do fine.
hahahaha good one

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:47 am
by scott1297
This game shouldn't have been a close game Piketon IMO should have won this game by 20 so is Piketon over rated or did they just have a bad game? Burg will give Piketon all they want and then some! Can't wait til Saturday gonna be an exciting game

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:48 am
by formerfcfan
LucasDavenport wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:25 am Might be a good thing for the kid in the long run. Growth opportunity. It doesn’t matter if he was right or wrong —- he put himself above the team for a few seconds and it Cost the team. The referee is in charge. My coach used to say — “ if you reach then you give the referee an option — he might call a foul on you simply to get you to stop reaching”. If you keep your mouth shut then there’s no problem. You ever notice the really great refs will call a foul early —- like when a player gets a rebound and the defender closest reaches in — a good referee calls that and stops the action. In A junior high Game this runs rampant.

The referees at The Convo in District play are our best. They do a very good job.

My first year coaching varsity I thought we were getting homered. The refs ignored me. When I said something to the AD about paying them — he replied — “ they might have been bad but they were better than that team you put on the floor “. He was right. Shut me up quick.

The refs have less missed calls than turnovers by the teams. They do fine.
LMAO, I liked that!

Sidenote: always enjoy the comment “home team pays the refs!” Of course, they do: that’s who pays the officials to do the game in the first place!

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:50 am
by LucasDavenport
That was 1994.

Bob Huggins told a great story at a Clinic about 20 years ago. He was at UC. Nike clinic. He said his father was who he learned everything from. Great HS coach in Ohio —- he taught him very well. So early in Bob’s career he’s coaching at Small College level and he’s on the road. One referee in particular is favoring the home team ( in Bobs opinion) so he calls timeout. Coming out of the timeout the action proceeds for a little and then The Referee stops the game and approaches Huggins. “Coach — why do you have two of your players guarding me?”

Bob. “ my father always taught me to double team the guy who was killing me and right now You’re killing me!”

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:13 pm
by mlittle
greygoose wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:04 am Understand you would've liked to seen it called earlier in the game, however without knowing what was said maybe it wasn't warranted at that point. Ref calls it earlier in the game, Piketon hits the free throws we're in the same situation score wise. Nothing can predict that he learns his lesson and doesn't get another T with 20 sec. left to go in the game. Without knowing what was said earlier in the game and later in the game to get the T we can only speculate. I have to error on the side of the ref on this though, no ref is going to want to call that T in that situation unless the coach or player has gone above and beyond the code of conduct that is acceptable in that refs eyes.
Agreed. It’s really hard for me to make that argument without knowing what was said but man that was untimely. The coach was definitely irate and even shoulder checked one of his players on his way to the official.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:43 pm
by Ironman92
Lol, well at least I tried

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:01 pm
by danicalifornia
Ironman92 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:43 pm Lol, well at least I tried
That's why you shouldn't make posts that compliment referees. No matter how good they were all day (and they were), people will still be upset about them lol

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:42 pm
by CavalierAlum05
Swingle got thumped on all night in the PV game with no calls. Nothing new though there as it was that way for 4 years. Other than that I didn’t see anything that was bad at all.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:49 pm
by biggdowgg
Refs done a great job all,day they made no difference in the outcome of none of the games so ,good job

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:46 pm
by mlittle
danicalifornia wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:01 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:43 pm Lol, well at least I tried
That's why you shouldn't make posts that compliment referees. No matter how good they were all day (and they were), people will still be upset about them lol
Hell, my team won and I’m still complaining 😀. There is just no pleasing some people.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:04 pm
by danicalifornia
mlittle wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:46 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:01 pm
Ironman92 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:43 pm Lol, well at least I tried
That's why you shouldn't make posts that compliment referees. No matter how good they were all day (and they were), people will still be upset about them lol
Hell, my team won and I’m still complaining 😀. There is just no pleasing some people.
Lol, well to be fair, I thought Issac's behind the back carry was the worst call of the day, so I get it.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:28 pm
by mlittle
danicalifornia wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:04 pm
mlittle wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:46 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:01 pm

That's why you shouldn't make posts that compliment referees. No matter how good they were all day (and they were), people will still be upset about them lol
Hell, my team won and I’m still complaining 😀. There is just no pleasing some people.
Lol, well to be fair, I thought Issac's behind the back carry was the worst call of the day, so I get it.
Lol, he had a rough game. He gets a chance to make up for it Saturday! 😉

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:02 pm
by Sid Farkus
CavalierAlum05 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:42 pm Swingle got thumped on all night in the PV game with no calls. Nothing new though there as it was that way for 4 years. Other than that I didn’t see anything that was bad at all.
I'm not a PV fan, but you are correct. Swingle was fouled every time he touched the ball. It is a crime the way the officials allow kids to beat on him.

Also, during the SE/ Eastern game they let kids travel all over the place.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:07 pm
by danicalifornia
Sid Farkus wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:02 pm
CavalierAlum05 wrote: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:42 pm Swingle got thumped on all night in the PV game with no calls. Nothing new though there as it was that way for 4 years. Other than that I didn’t see anything that was bad at all.
I'm not a PV fan, but you are correct. Swingle was fouled every time he touched the ball. It is a crime the way the officials allow kids to beat on him.

Also, during the SE/ Eastern game they let kids travel all over the place.
He might've been. Just seemed to be more content 10-15 feet away for the most part, for whatever reason. That's probably why I (nor the folks around me) didn't really notice it.

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:37 pm
by Waterboy
I know of 1 that was obviously against the hornets today but he got beat as well . . Hard to play against 6 or 7 🙄

Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:30 pm
by ronm001
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Re: Convo Refs on Saturday

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 8:45 pm
by yabbadabbadoo
I thought they did pretty well overall but you are right, the Swingle kid got beat to death every time he touched the ball near the basket. It's almost like the refs around here treat the bigger kids a little different around here because they already feel they have an edge with their size. IMO that is total BS!!! I don't care how big you are, if you go for a rebound and you get a little shove in the back it will throw off your rhythm just enough to take you out of position.