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Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:35 am
by kantuckyII
Good golly, has this man gone mad?! How much misery did Hitler and Stalin visit on innocent humans? Stone must be stoned?


Being Portrayed 'in Context'
By Alana Goodman (Bio | Archive)
Sun, 07/25/2010 - 21:03 ET

Director Oliver Stone belittled the Holocaust during a shocking interview with the Sunday Times today, claiming that America's focus on the Jewish massacre was a product of the "Jewish domination of the media."
The director also defended Hitler and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and railed against the "powerful lobby" of Jews in America.

Stone said that his upcoming Showtime documentary series "Secret History of America," seeks to put Hitler and Communist dictator Joseph Stalin "in context."

"Hitler was a Frankenstein but there was also a Dr Frankenstein. German industrialists, the Americans and the British. He had a lot of support," Stone told reporter Camilla Long during the interview, which can be found behind the paywall on the Sunday Times' website.


Stone said that, "Hitler did far more damage to the Russians than the Jewish people, 25 or 30 [million killed]."

The Sunday Times interviewer then asked why there was such a focus on the Holocaust.

"The Jewish domination of the media," responded Stone. "There's a major lobby in the United States. They are hard workers. They stay on top of every comment, the most powerful lobby in Washington. Israel has f***** up United States foreign policy for years."

The director, who recently met with Iranian President Ahmadinejad, also slammed the U.S. policy toward Iran as "horrible."

"Iran isn't necessarily the good guy," said Stone. "[B]ut we don't know the full story!"

The Scarface screenwriter had even more encouraging words for socialist Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, who Stone called "a brave, blunt, earthy" man. The director has recently been promoting his Chavez-praising documentary called "South of the Border."

When the interviewer pointed out that Chavez has had a less-than-stellar record on human rights, Stone immediately dismissed the criticism.

"The internet's fully free [in Venezuela]," said Stone. "You can say what the hell you like. Compare it with all the other countries: Mexico, Guatemala, above all Colombia, which is a joke."

While Stone has not been as blunt about his views on Jews and the Holocaust in the past, he has been outspoken in his fondness for Chavez and his disagreements with the U.S.'s policy on Iran.

On ABC's Good Morning America on July 28, the director told anchor George Stephanopoulos that he "absolutely" believes Chavez is a good person, and claimed that there was "there's no pattern of censorship in this country [Venezuela]."

Stone also said that if the U.S. pursued sanctions against Iran, "it's going to be like North Vietnam again."



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Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:05 am
by kantuckyII
...and..isn't it amazing how they control what America hears. Please..don't even tell me that there's not a 'Battle For The Mind' in this world and in America, it's rampant!

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:31 pm
by Tigercannon71
First of all I am not advocating that Hitler was anything, but a monster. Look Stone is somewhat right on some of his viewpoints like the German industrialists and Britain helped him. I this will be taken out of context, but I will say it anyway. What Hitler did for German was what FDR did for America, but then he crossed the line with the whole concetration camp for jews and starting WWII. If none of that would have happened he might have went down as a great statesmen of his time, but no he is remember and for good reason as a monster. If you read about his views he was actually an environmentalist who tried to get German car manufactures to make cars that used less gas, but would go farther. He worried about the pollution and erosion of German forests and he also was very outspoken in his hatred for smoking and would actually give away old watches to his cronies who quit smoking. Instead of being rememebred as an environmentalist statesmen he is rememebred as a monster and rightfully so as is Stalin. Those two men killed more people duirng the 30's and 40's than smallpox for their own pleasure.

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:41 am
by Burg_Grad_77
Remember, this is posted by the man who thinks Obama is the Anti-Christ and that everything you see and hear on Fox News is the absolute truth. :roll:

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:39 am
by kantuckyII
Burg_Grad_77 wrote:Remember, this is posted by the man who thinks Obama is the Anti-Christ and that everything you see and hear on Fox News is the absolute truth. :roll:

You tell such big swelling fibs! and you always get by with it.... I have never said I think Obama is the Anti-christ (I think he might be kin though... :lol: ) and I think that people who ignore Fox...go around ignorant of many of this nation's goin'-on's but ...the absolute truth? Only God has that

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:12 am
by Burg_Grad_77
kantuckyII wrote:
Burg_Grad_77 wrote:Remember, this is posted by the man who thinks Obama is the Anti-Christ and that everything you see and hear on Fox News is the absolute truth. :roll:

You tell such big swelling fibs! and you always get by with it.... I have never said I think Obama is the Anti-christ (I think he might be kin though... :lol: ) and I think that people who ignore Fox...go around ignorant of many of this nation's goin'-on's but ...the absolute truth? Only God has that



You know as well as I do that you said it and it was proven to you time and time again until your Mod buddy deleted the thread.

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:18 am
by kantuckyII
I've asked every mod, everyone has told me that they never saw it that you made it up....or you're hallucinating? I would not deny that he isn't the AC (I'll never know it) but I never said that he is

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:22 am
by vids4ckcrash
kantuckyII wrote:I've asked every mod, everyone has told me that they never saw it that you made it up....or you're hallucinating? I would not deny that he isn't the AC (I'll never know it) but I never said that he is


Let me assist the mods on this.

May 23, 2010 - 1:55 P.M. KYII said

Hmmmmmmm Obama is going to take Facebook over as he is the anti-christ and in order to buy and sell you have to have a facebook account? hmmmmmmmmm?????
viewtopic.php?f=18&t=72536&p=1717005#p1717005

I gotta go with Bill Clinton on this.

"It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:28 am
by kantuckyII
The mods are smart enough to know joking and not joking......


HOWEVER...speaking of Israel....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm but..we won't go into that here.. ;-)

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:47 pm
by Burg_Grad_77
There you go. Once again you make a statement and then lie through your teeth about it claiming you never said it. That isn't even the original statement you made right after he was elected so you not only said it once, you have said it multiple times.

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:53 pm
by biggdowgg
"mod buddy"...now thats funny :aaaaa8 :aaaaa8 .

you know a lil bribe oney goes a long way :roll:

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:55 pm
by Burg_Grad_77
How far would a Big Mo and a Coke get me? :mrgreen:

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:56 pm
by biggdowgg
:aaaaa30

Re: Hitler Simply Misunderstood? Oliver Stone Gone Nuts?

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:24 pm
by Burg_Grad_77
I was going to suggest the steakhouse in Jackson but I don't think you all are allowed back in there. :mrgreen: