D3 2019-20 Basketball (Updated 2/16)

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Fairland over Peake
Zane Trace was off tonight
Eastern Brown big over North Adams
Wheelersburg was off
Alexander loses to Warren
Oak Hill loses to Waverly
Ironton over Coal Grove
Meigs over Athens
South Point over Rock Hill

As of today something along the lines of

1 - Zane Trace
2. Eastern Brown
3. Fairland
4. Chesapeake
5. Wheelersburg
6. Oak Hill
7. Alexander
8-9-10-11-12.... Adena, Ironton, North Adams, South Point, Minford (in some order)... possibly add in Meigs


Unbelievably tight and could continue to switch multiple times over the next 9 days. Fairland, Eastern Brown, and Zane Trace all have legitimate arguments at the 1 seed.


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I think Burg is top 4, Peake 5

1-3 is tight


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Ironman92 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:56 pm I think Burg is top 4, Peake 5

1-3 is tight
I have Peake losing to Fairland x2 and Eastern Brown. So their only losses are to 2 teams above them that are arguably the 1-2 seeds.

I have Burg losing to Waverly and Ironton. Common opponent being Ironton who Peake beat twice.

But I do agree that majority of coaches vote strictly off record and nothing else, so you might be right. Personally I just value common opponent results mixed in with overall record.

If Burg beats Waverly for the SOC title, though, then their case for #4 just got stronger.


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bbjunky81 wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 4:28 am
Ironman92 wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:56 pm I think Burg is top 4, Peake 5

1-3 is tight
I have Peake losing to Fairland x2 and Eastern Brown. So their only losses are to 2 teams above them that are arguably the 1-2 seeds.

I have Burg losing to Waverly and Ironton. Common opponent being Ironton who Peake beat twice.

But I do agree that majority of coaches vote strictly off record and nothing else, so you might be right. Personally I just value common opponent results mixed in with overall record.

If Burg beats Waverly for the SOC title, though, then their case for #4 just got stronger.
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I know North Adam's has underachieved a bit this year, but the score was not indicative of how badly Eastern Brown beat North Adam's last night. Quality win for the warriors. There is a balance to their scoring attack, and fundamental approach in general that will make them an intriguing tournament team. They have a curious game Wednesday night vs Maysville(KY) St.Patrick, though lacking in wins plays a brutal schedule. They have games coming up against Brown County generational rivals Georgetown, and Ripley. Based on quality of coaching, a varied schedule( Madeira out of the Cincinnati Hills league), Western Brown(division I), St.Patrick, Alexander, Peake, and their typical SHAC opponents, I think they are tournament ready. ZT, and Fairland are formidable, Peake is going to have a big ol' purple axe to grind, and Burg being good, i just think this is a talent -rich, total toss up. People with way more knowledge than myself are going to have a massive chore on their hands at seeding!


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WonderNova wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:58 am I know North Adam's has underachieved a bit this year, but the score was not indicative of how badly Eastern Brown beat North Adam's last night. Quality win for the warriors. There is a balance to their scoring attack, and fundamental approach in general that will make them an intriguing tournament team. They have a curious game Wednesday night vs Maysville(KY) St.Patrick, though lacking in wins plays a brutal schedule. They have games coming up against Brown County generational rivals Georgetown, and Ripley. Based on quality of coaching, a varied schedule( Madeira out of the Cincinnati Hills league), Western Brown(division I), St.Patrick, Alexander, Peake, and their typical SHAC opponents, I think they are tournament ready. ZT, and Fairland are formidable, Peake is going to have a big ol' purple axe to grind, and Burg being good, i just think this is a talent -rich, total toss up. People with way more knowledge than myself are going to have a massive chore on their hands at seeding!
I’m rooting for your Warriors but St Patrick isn’t good at all according to my source at that school.


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I just made the assumption that a steady diet of what would be D2 teams in Ohio there would be a challenge. In the days when Eastern was in the Southwest, there would be Cincinnati McNicholas with 12 losses and would be the #1 or 2 seed. . After getting killed by Moeller,Elder,St.X, LaSalle and Roger Bacon they were deceptively better than their record.I guess that isnt the case here?


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WonderNova wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:18 pm I just made the assumption that a steady diet of what would be D2 teams in Ohio there would be a challenge. In the days when Eastern was in the Southwest, there would be Cincinnati McNicholas with 12 losses and would be the #1 or 2 seed. . After getting killed by Moeller,Elder,St.X, LaSalle and Roger Bacon they were deceptively better than their record.I guess that isnt the case here?
Yeah I get that but St Patrick this year wouldn’t be faring very well in our district. I like to tell people that Hillsboro isn’t bad and a decent win for my Jackson team who most agree are quite good....but you guys beat them by 60 so no one really believes Hillsboro is much at all.

I think Coach Beucler has enough respect around the district to get a fair shake. If they don’t seem to get a fair shake in the seedings then he’ll have the chip on their shoulders which could make them even more dangerous.


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North Adams is a team I can’t wrap my head around. They returned a ton of talent off last years team and were receiving a ton of pre season hype (2 or 3 on pfloyds preseason rankings). Now they’re battling for the 9 or 10 seed in the D3 sectional.

Have they been battling the injury bug?


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Two losses to very good Eastern squad, Chesapeake and Peebles. Match ups,match ups ,matchups,for North Adams. They are an odd team to figure out.


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Updated 2/2


Pos Team W L PCT GB STRK PF PA DIFF
1 Eastern Brown 16 1 0.941 0 W6 68 44 23
2 Fairland 17 2 0.895 0 W1 58 44 14
3 Wheelersburg 15 2 0.882 1 W7 66 48 18
4 Zane Trace 15 3 0.833 1.5 W1 68 47 21
5 Chesapeake 15 3 0.833 1.5 L1 68 50 18

6 Oak Hill 15 4 0.789 2 L2 53 37 15
7 Alexander 12 5 0.706 4 L1 54 45 9
8 North Adams 14 6 0.700 3.5 L1 59 52 8
9 South Point 11 7 0.611 5.5 W4 64 57 7
10 Adena 10 7 0.588 6 L2 55 47 7

11 Minford 10 7 0.588 6 W1 58 51 6
12 Belpre 11 8 0.579 6 L1 60 58 2
13 Ironton 9 7 0.563 6.5 W2 55 52 3
14 Meigs 10 8 0.556 6.5 W5 55 54 1
15 Piketon 9 10 0.474 8 L1 49 44 5

16 Westfall 9 10 0.474 8 W1 45 53 -8
17 Western 8 9 0.471 8 L3 59 56 3
18 West Union 7 11 0.389 9.5 L2 55 59 -4
19 Portsmouth 7 11 0.389 9.5 W1 59 64 -5
20 Portsmouth West 5 13 0.278 11.5 L6 49 57 -8

21 Wellston 5 13 0.278 11.5 W1 46 57 -11
22 Coal Grove 4 13 0.235 12 L2 48 59 -11
23 Southeastern 4 14 0.222 12.5 L3 45 59 -15
24 Northwest 3 14 0.176 13 W2 46 59 -13
25 Lynchburg-Clay 3 15 0.167 13.5 W1 52 63 -11

26 Nelsonville-York 3 15 0.167 13.5 W1 48 66 -18
27 Rock Hill 3 16 0.158 14 L11 49 64 -15


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Lots of discussion about the top 5. Who would be the teams to watch out for to play Cinderella? Or even the teams that the top 5 would rather not see in the sectional finals?


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If I was in the top 5 I wouldn't want to see:

Alexander
South Point
Ironton
Adena\

Those 4 would scare me to death. Piketon and Portsmouth could scare you a little as well

I would have
1) Eastern Brown
2) Fairland
3) Zane Trace
4) Wheelersburg
5) Chesapeake

Eastern Brown vs Burg/Peake for 1 District Title and Fairland/ZT for the other would be a fun day..


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LucasDavenport: Thanks for mentioning my Trojans; we could be scary if we play like we did at Fairland (75-73 L in OT). That's the best basketball we've shown all season. Traditionally, Portsmouth is often a tough out in the tourney. Case in point the last 2 seasons in the sectional championship: 2019 Adena 57, Portsmouth 54 (Adena advanced to the regional).......2018 Lynchburg Clay 47, Portsmouth 42.

It's been a while since we've pulled off an upset as an underdog.......and for sure we'll be an underdog against any of those teams you mentioned above. But we're capable of an upset.......but we're also capable of being one and done. We've won the sectional only once in the last 4 years.


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I think at this point ZT and Fairland have the best resume with Eastern Brown a close third.

Because of strength of schedule Chesapeake would be the 4th seed. Wheelersburg downgraded their schedule so it’s hard to say where they fall. (5th at the best)

Regardless of the seeding It should be a fun D-III tournament.


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ItsMyOpinion wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:17 pm I think at this point ZT and Fairland have the best resume with Eastern Brown a close third.

Because of strength of schedule Chesapeake would be the 4th seed. Wheelersburg downgraded their schedule so it’s hard to say where they fall. (5th at the best)

Regardless of the seeding It should be a fun D-III tournament.
At this point I can’t see Burg being below Peake


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LucasDavenport wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:32 am If I was in the top 5 I wouldn't want to see:

Alexander
South Point
Ironton
Adena\

Those 4 would scare me to death. Piketon and Portsmouth could scare you a little as well

I would have
1) Eastern Brown
2) Fairland
3) Zane Trace
4) Wheelersburg
5) Chesapeake

Eastern Brown vs Burg/Peake for 1 District Title and Fairland/ZT for the other would be a fun day..
Do the top 5 try and strategically place their rankings to try and stay way from certain teams? I know its really hard with online voting but you've got to think that a team like ZT wouldn't want to play Adena or Piketon for a third time. Same with Fairland/Chesapeake not wanting South Point, Ironton, or Portsmouth. I wouldn't think Eastern would want a team like North Adams or even a West Union.

Obviously that's the school of though that its hard to beat a team multiple times in a season. Some of these teams may think that's their best shot because they know they can beat them (they've proven it).


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LucasDavenport wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:32 am If I was in the top 5 I wouldn't want to see:

Alexander
South Point
Ironton
Adena\

Those 4 would scare me to death. Piketon and Portsmouth could scare you a little as well

I would have
1) Eastern Brown
2) Fairland
3) Zane Trace
4) Wheelersburg
5) Chesapeake

Eastern Brown vs Burg/Peake for 1 District Title and Fairland/ZT for the other would be a fun day..
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The one team you don't want to see if you are one of the top seeds is Meigs!

They have won 6 in a row, including wins over both Athens and Alexander.


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