Re: 2021-2022 SVC
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:12 pm
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Been playing much better as of late, besides the possible outlier last night. They are the one team I think can advance that far from the league this yearpetesweaty wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:12 pm I think Zane Trace can get to at least the District Finals.
I know they are 12-5, but they are still not very consistent.
I have had the fortune of seeing Huntington play and I would not call them embarrassing at all! That team plays extremely hard and is disciplined and well coached. With a bounce or two here and there, they would have a couple of league wins. Seeing what is coming down the line for Huntington, I can see this program really rising in the next few seasons. So to say that they are "absolutely embarrassing", I respectfully disagree.redchair wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:08 pm Like I thought, ZT will win this league with Unioto and PV right behind them.
Piketon and WF surprised me, doing better than I had thought. Thought they would be battling it out with the bottom teams. You really have to give Piketon’s coach a lot of credit. They were the team that I thought would really struggle.
Considering what Adena and SE lost, I thought they had slightly better years than expected. Thought one of these 2 would maybe go winless.
Huntington is a team that really disappointed. Many people picking them 4th or 5th in the league. Looks like they won’t win a single league game. They’ve always won a couple league games, even when they’ve been bad the last few years. That’s a program that went from bad to absolutely embarrassing.
I agree. Compared to where they were a few years ago, this team is heading in the right direction now. Sure, it will take a year or two for the current coaching staff to get the kids in a position to be successful, but they will get there. They are involved in the youth programs and trying to build a good program. They had a few kids transfer and/or just not play, so numbers are hurting them. But they kids go out and play hard. Like you said, they are disciplined and play hard. The basketball stuff will come over the years with more involvement in the youth program. Good things to come from the TWP, I hope.soggybottomtopper wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:57 pmI have had the fortune of seeing Huntington play and I would not call them embarrassing at all! That team plays extremely hard and is disciplined and well coached. With a bounce or two here and there, they would have a couple of league wins. Seeing what is coming down the line for Huntington, I can see this program really rising in the next few seasons. So to say that they are "absolutely embarrassing", I respectfully disagree.redchair wrote: ↑Sat Jan 29, 2022 2:08 pm Like I thought, ZT will win this league with Unioto and PV right behind them.
Piketon and WF surprised me, doing better than I had thought. Thought they would be battling it out with the bottom teams. You really have to give Piketon’s coach a lot of credit. They were the team that I thought would really struggle.
Considering what Adena and SE lost, I thought they had slightly better years than expected. Thought one of these 2 would maybe go winless.
Huntington is a team that really disappointed. Many people picking them 4th or 5th in the league. Looks like they won’t win a single league game. They’ve always won a couple league games, even when they’ve been bad the last few years. That’s a program that went from bad to absolutely embarrassing.
No apology needed. You are only expressing your opinion and I respect that. I was only giving mine as well. The 9 kids is a direct result of a coaching change and the expectations of new work ethics. I believe some kids left because more was expected of them and they were not able to give as much as was expected. Just my take, right or wrong. But, I see the discipline and structure now in place and I see how hard these kids play. I see The Township coming out and supporting what they see. I know the talent in the middle school and the structure in the youth programs. This is where I see the future of a program that is about to break out. Once again, just my take, right or wrong.redchair wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:06 pm Soggybottom and transplant, I wasn’t trying to bash the kids. I apologize if that’s the way it came off. I was talking about only having 9 kids playing basketball in the whole high school and losing every league game. They’ve always had good numbers before and always managed to win a game or 2 in the league regardless of lacking talent. I’m sure you both know more about Huntington basketball than I do, but a program with only 9 kids is not going in the right direction.
I’m not sure, I don’t know a lot about Huntington. I do know they had a freshman team the last few years. That’s at least enough kids to field 3 teams. The previous coach never went o-fer in the league, either. And the league is considerably weaker now than it has been the last few years. Better numbers, more wins = a better program. It’s a shame the administration couldn’t convince him to stay. Listen, I don’t know if you’re the new coach’s wife or friend, but I didn’t really want to get in a conversation about the worst team in the league. That was never my intention. I just wrote a little about each team and how they were doing. Since you both are calling me out, I have to be honest. Not trying to offend anyone.transplant wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm Answer me this, if the previous coach is still there, how many kids do they have?
No, I get it. I didn’t mean to come off that way. Not a coach, or wife. Not even from Huntington. It’s all good. I understand what you were trying to do. I get they are 0-fer in the league. I wasn’t trying to calll you out, my bad. Just wanted your input, that’s all. I really thought they would have won a few league games this year. But I was wrong. All good.redchair wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:38 pmI’m not sure, I don’t know a lot about Huntington. I do know they had a freshman team the last few years. That’s at least enough kids to field 3 teams. The previous coach never went o-fer in the league, either. And the league is considerably weaker now than it has been the last few years. Better numbers, more wins = a better program. It’s a shame the administration couldn’t convince him to stay. Listen, I don’t know if you’re the new coach’s wife or friend, but I didn’t really want to get in a conversation about the worst team in the league. That was never my intention. I just wrote a little about each team and how they were doing. Since you both are calling me out, I have to be honest. Not trying to offend anyone.transplant wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:25 pm Answer me this, if the previous coach is still there, how many kids do they have?
This was my thinking, too. I actually had them picked 4th, behind ZT, U and PV. That’s why I was disappointed by their season thus far. Westfall and Piketon both made me look foolish. I thought they’d both be in the bottom half. Westfall has had some surprising wins. I think they could do some damage in the tourney. PV will also fair well if they are in D4, which I assume they are.transplant wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:08 pm I really thought they would have won a few league games this year. But I was wrong. All good.
ZT has by far the best overall talent in the league. The other teams have a decent player or two and that is it.
Congratulations to Zane Trace. It is always easy to predict what a team "should" do. But, it is not always easy to do it.
Who got chased off? Talking about ZT?The Hunter wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 8:09 pmIt makes it really hard to do when you chase off half the team, soggybottomtopper!soggybottomtopper wrote: ↑Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:52 amCongratulations to Zane Trace. It is always easy to predict what a team "should" do. But, it is not always easy to do it.
ONE: I do not coach Huntington. So that is an idiotic statement at best.The Hunter wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:54 pm No, I’m talking about Huntington. The team soggybottom coaches. We’re not going to be very good without players. We would have finished in the middle of the league if our coach hadn’t came in and chased kids off.
I'm guessing you missed the part on the rules of this site to not call people out by name if they choose to remain anonymous (part of what this site is about) and making bold accusations towards someone specific that you aren't even sure of who they really are. Anyone could know information about the teams in the D3 tourney if they took the time to go watch different teams on a weekly basis or read up on themThe Hunter wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:26 pmOne: Who are you then? Who else would know that much about the teams on the D3 tournament. You’re either Bradley or his wife. If you’re Bradley’s wife, he’s telling you everything to say.soggybottomtopper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:29 pmONE: I do not coach Huntington. So that is an idiotic statement at best.The Hunter wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:54 pm No, I’m talking about Huntington. The team soggybottom coaches. We’re not going to be very good without players. We would have finished in the middle of the league if our coach hadn’t came in and chased kids off.
TWO: Don't blame a coach for expecting his players to play hard and demand their best. If players cannot handle that, let's be honest, they are not players.
THREE: When kids decide to quit, because a coach wants more out of them, I don't blame the coach...sorry.
FOUR: If I WERE the coach at Huntington, I would want those kids that are on the court right now, because they play hard, they play physical and you never see attitude from them or any of them throwing their teammates under the bus.
Just my opinion, but Huntington will be fine. The program will get more and more disciplined. More and more physical. More and more tough. And the skill and talent is coming. It is crazy how some see situations one way and others see it totally opposite. Parents and "outside talking heads" are the biggest problem with any program in my opinion. Let a coach, coach. Get out of the way. After 3 or 4 seasons when a system is in place, then you can make a judgement based on progress, then bash all you like.
Two: So, there are only 9 players in the whole high school?
Three: High numbers are a sign of a good coach, low numbers are a sign of a poor coach. I heard the players at Adena couldn’t stand you, but played in spite of it. Kids in the township won’t put up with your nonsense.
Four: Did you put a system in place at Adena? They would have been the worst team in the league this year if you hadn’t got the job at Huntington. You’re on here talking about getting the program more physical, tougher and more disciplined, but the point is to win games, not make everyone miserable, coach. You’re not winning games now and I doubt you ever will.
This is not one team, boys or girls, this is for all athletes.soggybottomtopper wrote: ↑Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:29 pmONE: I do not coach Huntington. So that is an idiotic statement at best.The Hunter wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:54 pm No, I’m talking about Huntington. The team soggybottom coaches. We’re not going to be very good without players. We would have finished in the middle of the league if our coach hadn’t came in and chased kids off.
TWO: Don't blame a coach for expecting his players to play hard and demand their best. If players cannot handle that, let's be honest, they are not players.
THREE: When kids decide to quit, because a coach wants more out of them, I don't blame the coach...sorry.
FOUR: If I WERE the coach at Huntington, I would want those kids that are on the court right now, because they play hard, they play physical and you never see attitude from them or any of them throwing their teammates under the bus.
Just my opinion, but Huntington will be fine. The program will get more and more disciplined. More and more physical. More and more tough. And the skill and talent is coming. It is crazy how some see situations one way and others see it totally opposite. Parents and "outside talking heads" are the biggest problem with any program in my opinion. Let a coach, coach. Get out of the way. After 3 or 4 seasons when a system is in place, then you can make a judgement based on progress, then bash all you like.