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Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:54 pm Weights do not throw off a shot

Jim Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pm

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:54 pm Weights do not throw off a shot

Apparently you've never lifted weights and then tried to shoot. They definitely throw off yer shot.

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:04 pm

Jim Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pm

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:54 pm Weights do not throw off a shot

Apparently you've never lifted weights and then tried to shoot. They definitely throw off yer shot.

I’ve lifted dang near everyday for ten years now and played Rec ball in college. Of course you don’t lift before a game??? Common sense. As far as gaining strength and muscle mass, it definitely doesn’t affect the shot except maybe making a strength adjustment. I wouldn’t have my kids lift heavy the day before a game or during though

Jim Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:07 pm

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:04 pm

Jim Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:59 pm

Apparently you've never lifted weights and then tried to shoot. They definitely throw off yer shot.

I’ve lifted dang near everyday for ten years now and played Rec ball in college. Of course you don’t lift before a game??? Common sense. As far as gaining strength and muscle mass, it definitely doesn’t affect the shot except maybe making a strength adjustment. I wouldn’t have my kids lift heavy the day before a game or during though

Yay, you played "rec ball." Good for you. But lifting is not good for shooting. Maybe you couldn't shoot very well to start with, so you lifted weights and it threw off your shot off so much that you actually shot well after lifting. I can understand that. But it hurts good shooters. How many body builder types have you seen that could shoot a basketball well?

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:43 pm

thebarlowbandit wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:12 pm Sounds like kid needs to get quicker, FT is a battle for position, as long as no pushing with hands, shoving, or tossing to the ground it’s a bigger faster, stronger scrum.

Hands on the back on that quick play is tough to see for one of two officials watching. Hands get used for leverage. I know it’s more open and scrum-like. It’s a quick happening and a judgement call trying to watch several things. I’m not saying it’s easy and I’m not upset with any official. I didn’t know the responsibilities of the 3 and by description sounds like guy watching ft line has to call opposite side once shot is delivered? If he’s watching to see if shooters foot doesn’t come across early before hitting rim it has to be tough to look oppo side to see what I’m speaking of. And the player tried being quicker. Again, not an obvious call but to have never ever seen it be called but have seen hundreds of lane violations....I wasn’t sure there was even a rule against it.

I’d almost have them line up on far bottom side of box and go flying back at the Team B guy for a big collision that would keep either from getting the ball. Would just be two guys going for the same space at same time.

I do think players should spend time working on it and how to better handle the situation.

thebarlowbandit wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:17 pm

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:43 pm

thebarlowbandit wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:12 pm Sounds like kid needs to get quicker, FT is a battle for position, as long as no pushing with hands, shoving, or tossing to the ground it’s a bigger faster, stronger scrum.

Hands on the back on that quick play is tough to see for one of two officials watching. Hands get used for leverage. I know it’s more open and scrum-like. It’s a quick happening and a judgement call trying to watch several things. I’m not saying it’s easy and I’m not upset with any official. I didn’t know the responsibilities of the 3 and by description sounds like guy watching ft line has to call opposite side once shot is delivered? If he’s watching to see if shooters foot doesn’t come across early before hitting rim it has to be tough to look oppo side to see what I’m speaking of. And the player tried being quicker. Again, not an obvious call but to have never ever seen it be called but have seen hundreds of lane violations....I wasn’t sure there was even a rule against it.

I’d almost have them line up on far bottom side of box and go flying back at the Team B guy for a big collision that would keep either from getting the ball. Would just be two guys going for the same space at same time.

I do think players should spend time working on it and how to better handle the situation.

1st off, there are three offIcials watching in every game I watch, which gives 1 inside out view and 2 outside in views, any official that’s any good will whack that if there is an advantage.

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:12 pm

Jim Ryan wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:07 pm

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:04 pm

I’ve lifted dang near everyday for ten years now and played Rec ball in college. Of course you don’t lift before a game??? Common sense. As far as gaining strength and muscle mass, it definitely doesn’t affect the shot except maybe making a strength adjustment. I wouldn’t have my kids lift heavy the day before a game or during though

Yay, you played "rec ball." Good for you. But lifting is not good for shooting. Maybe you couldn't shoot very well to start with, so you lifted weights and it threw off your shot off so much that you actually shot well after lifting. I can understand that. But it hurts good shooters. How many body builder types have you seen that could shoot a basketball well?

First off your being a prick.
Second off you’re still being a prick.
Third , you obviously aren’t as smart as you think you are if you think lifting weights makes you a body builder all of a sudden.

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:38 pm

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:21 pm Team B kid needs to get his weight up

I doubt that’s what the officials are looking for

PirateFan[69] wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:42 pm

Ironman92 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:38 pm

Swanker Pine wrote: ↑Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:21 pm Team B kid needs to get his weight up

I doubt that’s what the officials are looking for

Never met Swanker, but I really like this guy

Ed Ott wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm I have never really noticed the pushing on this play but went to Zane Trace and Unioto game and sure enough I saw the Trace kids shooting free throws and their bigs pushed in good and benefitted and grabbed some rebounds in doing so. Very interesting and will keep watching this in other games.

mlittle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Ed Ott wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm I have never really noticed the pushing on this play but went to Zane Trace and Unioto game and sure enough I saw the Trace kids shooting free throws and their bigs pushed in good and benefitted and grabbed some rebounds in doing so. Very interesting and will keep watching this in other games.

Yeah. Nesser and Davidson are big dudes. Our kids were planted and just couldn’t keep them from pushing them further and further under the basket. Makes it impossible to rebound on foul shots. But the refs weren’t calling it so why not keep doing it

mlittle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Ed Ott wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm I have never really noticed the pushing on this play but went to Zane Trace and Unioto game and sure enough I saw the Trace kids shooting free throws and their bigs pushed in good and benefitted and grabbed some rebounds in doing so. Very interesting and will keep watching this in other games.

Yeah. Nesser and Davidson are big dudes. Our kids were planted and just couldn’t keep them from pushing them further and further under the basket. Makes it impossible to rebound on foul shots. But the refs weren’t calling it so why not keep doing it

tracecat95 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:02 pm

mlittle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Ed Ott wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm I have never really noticed the pushing on this play but went to Zane Trace and Unioto game and sure enough I saw the Trace kids shooting free throws and their bigs pushed in good and benefitted and grabbed some rebounds in doing so. Very interesting and will keep watching this in other games.

Yeah. Nesser and Davidson are big dudes. Our kids were planted and just couldn’t keep them from pushing them further and further under the basket. Makes it impossible to rebound on foul shots. But the refs weren’t calling it so why not keep doing it

yeah it's not that your kid sucks at basketball. it's the officials fault that your kid only put up 9.

mlittle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:13 pm I never said what they did was wrong. If the refs aren’t calling it it’s a great strategy

tracecat95 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:02 pm

mlittle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Ed Ott wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:28 pm I have never really noticed the pushing on this play but went to Zane Trace and Unioto game and sure enough I saw the Trace kids shooting free throws and their bigs pushed in good and benefitted and grabbed some rebounds in doing so. Very interesting and will keep watching this in other games.

Yeah. Nesser and Davidson are big dudes. Our kids were planted and just couldn’t keep them from pushing them further and further under the basket. Makes it impossible to rebound on foul shots. But the refs weren’t calling it so why not keep doing it

yeah it's not that your kid sucks at basketball. it's the officials fault that your kid only put up 9.

Scottyboy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:09 pm

tracecat95 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 6:02 pm

mlittle wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Yeah. Nesser and Davidson are big dudes. Our kids were planted and just couldn’t keep them from pushing them further and further under the basket. Makes it impossible to rebound on foul shots. But the refs weren’t calling it so why not keep doing it

yeah it's not that your kid sucks at basketball. it's the officials fault that your kid only put up 9.

I have "no dog in this fight." Just really curious as to why tracecat95 is so hateful towards mlittle and his son? Is it personal? Or are you seeking "troll attention?"