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Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:13 pm
by Hoopie74
Incidental contact in my opinion. No effect on shot. He just missed. It should have gone to OT. Probably would have ended the same result,but; I say let the kids settle it with an OT.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 4:58 pm
by 25th Street NW
I agree with Dani, foul right on the shooting hand.
Good call by the ref.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:53 pm
by mlittle
Hoopie74 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:13 pm Incidental contact in my opinion. No effect on shot. He just missed. It should have gone to OT. Probably would have ended the same result,but; I say let the kids settle it with an OT.
Incidental contact is still a foul. It absolutely affects the shot when not able to follow through. It’s a scientific fact

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:55 pm
by mlittle
Raider6309 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:09 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:47 pm I’m sure if he was flopping the whole game and not getting calls that he wouldn’t hold his follow through on the game winning shot...especially since his arm moved slightly and not in a glaring way.

Good call by the official.
Here’s a better view.

From this angle how could anyone in their right mind not think this is a foul? smh

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:00 pm
by bsee12345
I don't think you call the foul. Its a tie game-let the players decide the game- game goes to OT. Probably will be the same outcome-Harvest Prep wins. You see and hear all the time= let the kids decide the game not the referees. I read on another site a Worthington Christian player parent mention it was to bad it happen the way it did- but the game was decided early with WC have 22 turnovers and parent said WC went to playing a little conservatively after jumping out to 17-6 lead after 1 quarter.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:19 pm
by Hoopie74
mlittle wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:53 pm
Hoopie74 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 3:13 pm Incidental contact in my opinion. No effect on shot. He just missed. It should have gone to OT. Probably would have ended the same result,but; I say let the kids settle it with an OT.
Incidental contact is still a foul. It absolutely affects the shot when not able to follow through. It’s a scientific fact
I watched an angle from the side and he missed him in my opinion as I said earlier. You have your opinion. Regardless, it was a great game. Any game at this point of the tournament is awesome.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:31 pm
by formerfcfan
bsee12345 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:00 pm I don't think you call the foul. Its a tie game-let the players decide the game- game goes to OT. Probably will be the same outcome-Harvest Prep wins. You see and hear all the time= let the kids decide the game not the referees. I read on another site a Worthington Christian player parent mention it was to bad it happen the way it did- but the game was decided early with WC have 22 turnovers and parent said WC went to playing a little conservatively after jumping out to 17-6 lead after 1 quarter.
And this here is a cultural difference between healthy, proud and competitive programs compared to those that are not healthy nor competitive.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2020 10:30 pm
by danicalifornia
formerfcfan wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 7:31 pm
bsee12345 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 6:00 pm I don't think you call the foul. Its a tie game-let the players decide the game- game goes to OT. Probably will be the same outcome-Harvest Prep wins. You see and hear all the time= let the kids decide the game not the referees. I read on another site a Worthington Christian player parent mention it was to bad it happen the way it did- but the game was decided early with WC have 22 turnovers and parent said WC went to playing a little conservatively after jumping out to 17-6 lead after 1 quarter.
And this here is a cultural difference between healthy, proud and competitive programs compared to those that are not healthy nor competitive.
Yes it is.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 12:06 am
by 6-4-3=2o
It's a foul every day of the week

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:35 am
by art_vandelay
Obvious foul. Any contact on shooting arm/hand on an outside shot is a foul no matter the game situation. If that was in the paint, it a no-call.

Ad for this game, will be rooting for ZT but think Anthony for Harvest Prep is the difference.*

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:22 am
by wobycat
Why argue this foul? Why not go back to fouls three and four? What if those were more controversial?

Bottom line, one play or call is not the deciding factor in a game even if it’s the last one made on the court.

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:39 am
by Rza1
C'mon guys... I know everybody hates on the monster that is harvest prep.... but that is absolutely a foul. Lol.. I think the clip before the last one is best view....a great player made a great move in a bigtime situation.and the kid playin d never gave up on it and made a nice contest. But he definitely got him... nobody likes hp, but like I said, c'mon guys....

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:40 am
by Rza1
mlittle wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:55 pm
Raider6309 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:09 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:47 pm I’m sure if he was flopping the whole game and not getting calls that he wouldn’t hold his follow through on the game winning shot...especially since his arm moved slightly and not in a glaring way.

Good call by the official.
Here’s a better view.

From this angle how could anyone in their right mind not think this is a foul? smh


Word.... lol

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:45 am
by Rza1
mlittle wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 5:55 pm
Raider6309 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 2:09 pm
danicalifornia wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2020 1:47 pm I’m sure if he was flopping the whole game and not getting calls that he wouldn’t hold his follow through on the game winning shot...especially since his arm moved slightly and not in a glaring way.

Good call by the official.
Here’s a better view.

From this angle how could anyone in their right mind not think this is a foul? smh

Word....

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 2:59 am
by Raider6309
wobycat wrote: Sun Mar 08, 2020 8:22 am Why argue this foul? Why not go back to fouls three and four? What if those were more controversial?

Bottom line, one play or call is not the deciding factor in a game even if it’s the last one made on the court.
Because it’s a sports forum

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 9:47 am
by mlittle
Let’s literally foul kids on the arm while shooting and then say “let the kids decide the game” lol

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 12:54 pm
by WhiskeyTwoFive
Okay, back to the game...

I hope ZT comes out and plays to their potential. I havent seen that the last 2 weeks. Seems like they play down to their opponents. Each of the last 2 games they could have put the other team away in the 3rd but let them back in. I think the biggest key to this game is Foul trouble...can ZT guard a guy like Anthony and not get into foul trouble? As we have seen Coach K only plays about 5.5 players a night. Cant afford to lose a guard.

Good luck ZT!

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:07 pm
by Raider6309
Didn’t touch him. The foul was actually a blocking call not on the arm. I thought it was pretty obvious not on the arm. The ref called the leg kick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6paCzby0P8s

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 6:52 pm
by FANOSPORTS
Raider6309 wrote: Mon Mar 09, 2020 1:07 pm Didn’t touch him. The foul was actually a blocking call not on the arm. I thought it was pretty obvious not on the arm. The ref called the leg kick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6paCzby0P8s
Absolutely, NBA James Harden style !!!!!

Re: 3/11, 6:15 D3 Reg. Semi, Harvest Prep vs Zane Trace

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:00 pm
by Raider6309
The ref definitely got fooled by the leg kick. I guess if they are dumb enough to call it, people will keep doing it