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Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 3:39 pm
by peake71
The Beasts is canceled but Trimble plays at The Peake on sat Jan 8 at 3.00 for jv and 4.30 for varsity.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:16 am
by Western24
1. Valley
2. Trimble
3. Webster
4. Symmes Valley because they have the head 2 head against western but I think Western will get them when they play at Western
5. Western
6. Leesburg

Not sure about the rest but Notre Dame is probably next DIV is going to be a dandy come tourney time

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:35 pm
by Ironman92
Western24 wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 11:16 am 1. Valley
2. Trimble
3. Webster
4. Symmes Valley because they have the head 2 head against western but I think Western will get them when they play at Western
5. Western
6. Leesburg

Not sure about the rest but Notre Dame is probably next DIV is going to be a dandy come tourney time
I’d 100% have Fairfield 4th

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:42 pm
by Ironman92
Fairfield is 4-0 vs D3 teams and none were close

Won at Whiteoak by 13

Lost to Valley to start the season and lost to Cedarville, but we’re without a starter.

We’ll know more as they face Eastern Brown 2x, Fayetteville, Ripley….all very good SHAC teams.

Also play McClain, Hillsboro and Washington CH

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:18 pm
by Western24
Ironman92 wrote: Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:35 pm [quote=Western24 post_id=<a href="tel:1977743">1977743</a> time=<a href="tel:1640362593">1640362593</a> user_id=535]
1. Valley
2. Trimble
3. Webster
4. Symmes Valley because they have the head 2 head against western but I think Western will get them when they play at Western
5. Western
6. Leesburg

Not sure about the rest but Notre Dame is probably next DIV is going to be a dandy come tourney time
I’d 100% have Fairfield 4th
[/quote]

Definitely have good wins against division 3 opponents. But Western played them in a foundation game and drilled them. I realize that doesn’t count on their records but it was 20 when Western started subbing. I couldn’t put them that high.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:18 pm
by Western24
Agree though time will tell

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:21 am
by FIDO
The only certainty is nothing is certain.

I don't know enough about these teams to definitively say one is head and shoulders above another. I will say there is a lot of basketball to be played and anything can happen. Covid, injuries and a poor night can knock any team off their "A" game.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:42 pm
by Hoopie74
FIDO wrote: Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:21 am The only certainty is nothing is certain.

I don't know enough about these teams to definitively say one is head and shoulders above another. I will say there is a lot of basketball to be played and anything can happen. Covid, injuries and a poor night can knock any team off their "A" game.
Agree.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:27 pm
by Gray Cat
Not much chatter on this thread now that Trimble is beating he brakes off of virtually everyone they play. Hopefully they will get a tight game or two to prepare them for the regional and final four.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:41 pm
by bbjunky81
Right now I go with:

1.) Valley
1b.) Trimble

small gap

3.) South Webster

small gap

4 through 7 -------> Notre Dame/Western/Leesburg/Whiteoak (in no particular order)

Then I'm not sure

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:49 pm
by Gray Cat
bbjunky81 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:41 pm Right now I go with:

1.) Valley
1b.) Trimble

small gap

3.) South Webster

small gap

4 through 7 -------> Notre Dame/Western/Leesburg/Whiteoak (in no particular order)

Then I'm not sure
I go with:

1. Trimble

large gap

2. Valley

small gap

3. Webster

large gap

All them others (ATO).

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:26 pm
by The Ghost of Swanker
Trimbles gonna look good beating up on nobodies every week.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:38 pm
by ReedsvilleEaglesFan
The Ghost of Swanker wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:26 pm Trimbles gonna look good beating up on nobodies every week.
Yep, that's what they do best. :mrgreen:

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:49 pm
by Ironman92
Someone should compare schedules and outcomes for Trimble and Valley

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:19 pm
by The Ghost of Swanker
Ironman92 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:49 pm Someone should compare schedules and outcomes for Trimble and Valley
I may do this tonight. Strength of schedule and all that.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:13 pm
by MattyIce
Fairfield will be in the discussion for a 2-seed come tournament time.

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:53 pm
by The Ghost of Swanker
Ok about 30 minutes of stats here for Trimble vs Valley.
These are based off the latest Elite 8 rankings. Which don’t include Fort Frye and Caldwell. So keep that in mind they’re only figured into the PPG scored and allowed and wins column.

Through 9 games
PPG : Valley 71.3 Trimble 68.6
Opp PPG : Valley 51.66 Trimble 43.3

Strength of Schedule (Elite 8 Rankings averaged)
Valley 29.6 (21 games)
Trimble 52.6 (19 games) - excluding FF Caldwell

Through 9 games for Valley and 7 for Trimble
Opponents combined record
Valley 43-36
Trimble 23 - 41 (once again excluding Caldwell and FF, someone post that info please)

Highest ranked win so far
Valley over #9 South Webster
Trimble over #28 Waterford

Valley plays 6 games combined against top ten opponents
Waverly(1) SW (9) Minford (10)
Trimble is playing Zero. Their highest scheduled game on the schedule is Peake at 25

Valley Schedule :
6 games vs 1-10
1 game vs 11-20
2 games vs 21-30
4 games vs 31-40
5 games vs 41-50
3 games vs 51-60
0 games vs 60-70

Trimble Schedule
0 games vs 1-10
0 game vs 11-20
2 games vs 21-30
2 games vs 31-40
2 games vs 41-50
7 games vs 51-60
5 games vs 60-70

2 games vs non Elite 8 ranked teams

Edited because I had the GA game figured in for Trimble and everything was messed up

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:54 pm
by Ironman92
MattyIce wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:13 pm Fairfield will be in the discussion for a 2-seed come tournament time.
If they beat all the big boys left on their schedule

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:06 pm
by The Ghost of Swanker
Ironman92 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:54 pm
MattyIce wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 8:13 pm Fairfield will be in the discussion for a 2-seed come tournament time.
If they beat all the big boys left on their schedule
While you’re online, was the Trimble GAHS game not official? Cause that gives the cats 10 wins and screws all my math up

Re: SEO D4 Rankings

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:38 am
by FIDO
I'm a Valley guy. The SW game could have gone either way. Valley had the big spend plenty of minutes on the bench in foul trouble and SW missed a lot of open 3 looks. The rematch will be interesting.

I wouldn't say there is a huge separation between Valley and SW.