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Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:17 pm
by 93Bulldog
I'll look at my score book for Athens when I get home.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:04 pm
by VisionQuest
pfloyd wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:22 pm
... I would be interested to see the game stats for Gavin Arbaugh for Vinton County (he had 20 vs Alexander) ... Maxfield/Hynes/Chubb for Athens ... Alexander (JK Kearns) ... in the games I have seen I would give the early edge to JK Kearns as he does so much with the ball in his hands from the get go - scores it at the rim/in the paint and on the perimeter ... breaks down pressure with his ball handling ... gets everyone else involved with his assists ... the young man does it all and does it all well ... but it is a long season only a few weeks in the books ...
I should have mentioned Arbaugh. I thought he looked good against Athens also. Maybe had 17? Still early in the season. However; the question from mattash is who is leading? and it seems if we are to be fair it should be a player from the leading TVC team and whoever leads in scoring at this point in games played in the TVC. It seems to me that is what most judge it on, SCORING.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:10 pm
by Ironman92
1. Best Athens player (Maxfield)
2. Kearns
3. Baer
4. Arbaugh
5. Athens 2nd best (Hynes)
6. Athens 3rd best (Butcher)
7. Athens 4th best
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:10 pm
by Raider6309
You can make a case for most players but Maxfield does so much. For the 2009-2010 season Athens had Valentor, Butcher, and Pfaff. You could make a case for all three but Butcher did everything.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm
by 93Bulldog
Put me in the category of not viewing SCORING as the ONLY tool to determine POY.
Athens
vs Gallia - Maxfield 9 pts
vs Waverly - Hynes 20 pts
vs RV - Chubb 12 pts
vs Peake - Maxfield 20 pts
vs Vinton - Chubb 14 pts
vs NY - Butcher - 17 pts
vs Alexander - Maxfield 11 pts, Chubb 11 pts
vs New Lex - Chubb 15 pts
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:18 pm
by VisionQuest
Nobody wanted to look at defense or other statistics last year. So this is my point. The only thing most everyone looked at was SCORING. Nice to see that others are on board. FINALLY!!!
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm
by VisionQuest
Another interesting "quirk" that comes to mind. Maxfield was named defensive POY in football this year. If he gets offensive POY in basketball, will this be a 1st? 93Bulldog you have all the statistics in your vast database. Has this ever been done?
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:35 pm
by Johnstown
Of course. There were several in the area that were IST TEAM All STATE in football and basketball. Joe Burrow was a D 1 recruit for both sports.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:52 pm
by Raider6309
VisionQuest wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm
Another interesting "quirk" that comes to mind. Maxfield was named defensive POY in football this year. If he gets offensive POY in basketball, will this be a 1st? 93Bulldog you have all the statistics in your vast database. Has this ever been done?
I'd say that's rare for being defensive POTY in football and POTY in basketball for any league. I'm sure it's happened a few times with offensive POTY. Of course Burrow being most recent
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:55 pm
by Ironman92
Raider6309 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 11:52 pm
VisionQuest wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 10:19 pm
Another interesting "quirk" that comes to mind. Maxfield was named defensive POY in football this year. If he gets offensive POY in basketball, will this be a 1st? 93Bulldog you have all the statistics in your vast database. Has this ever been done?
I'd say that's rare for being defensive POTY in football and POTY in basketball for any league. I'm sure it's happened a few times with offensive POTY. Of course Burrow being most recent
Maxwell?
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:04 am
by 93Bulldog
Kaheem wasn't a great bball player.
I can't think of a defensive poy, and then bball poy.
Maybe in the TVC Hocking where your best athletes often have success in both sports
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:06 am
by Raider6309
Sunny Kalu was MVP those years in basketball.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:08 am
by Ironman92
Raider6309 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:06 am
Sunny Kalu was MVP those years in basketball.
Trying to think of defensive stud football players
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:09 am
by Ironman92
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:04 am
Kaheem wasn't a great bball player.
I can't think of a defensive poy, and then bball poy.
Maybe in the TVC Hocking where your best athletes often have success in both sports
The other way around I’d say Jared Humphreys
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:15 am
by Allthewayup11
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Wed Dec 26, 2018 9:12 pm
Put me in the category of not viewing SCORING as the ONLY tool to determine POY.
Athens
vs Gallia - Maxfield 9 pts
vs Waverly - Hynes 20 pts
vs RV - Chubb 12 pts
vs Peake - Maxfield 20 pts
vs Vinton - Chubb 14 pts
vs NY - Butcher - 17 pts
vs Alexander - Maxfield 11 pts, Chubb 11 pts
vs New Lex - Chubb 15 pts
93Bulldog, Maxfield gotta be at the top of scorer of the games he wasnt right? Been pretty clutch at FT line and the huge steals at Chesapeake i read about and a big last second steal vs Alexander. He’s always been all over the court and taking charges turning a game around. I would assume he’s got over 100 now, right? Anyone have access to the offensive team stats? Just curious.
Like to see him matched up against Kearns head to head in the Alley. That would be a tell all.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:14 am
by 93Bulldog
DPOY in football and basketball POY has happened three times by two different players in the TVC.
Brady Trace (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 1997 and 1998 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 1998 and 1999.
A.J. Jenkins (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 2002 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 2004.
To put into perspective how good of an athlete A.J. was ... He was DPOY in football in '02, OPY in football in '03 and POY in basketball in '04.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:26 am
by VisionQuest
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:14 am
DPOY in football and basketball POY has happened three times by two different players in the TVC.
Brady Trace (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 1997 and 1998 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 1998 and 1999.
A.J. Jenkins (Trimble) was the TVC-Hocking DPY in football in 2002 ... and was also the TVC-Hocking POY in basketball in 2004.
To put into perspective how good of an athlete A.J. was ... He was DPOY in football in '02, OPY in football in '03 and POY in basketball in '04.
Thanks for researching!!! Has made for some interesting perspective and conversation.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:17 pm
by Allthewayup11
Updates? Was wondering how Kearns, Baer, Maxfield, Chubb and others in the race? Any others i am not thinking of in the running? I heard Seale had 22 versus RV.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:51 pm
by dagger19
I believe Weber from Trimble is playing pretty well believe he is averaging around 20 points a game, 2-3 steals a game and 5-6 rebounds.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2019 5:26 pm
by Allthewayup11
dagger19 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 07, 2019 4:51 pm
I believe Weber from Trimble is playing pretty well believe he is averaging around 20 points a game, 2-3 steals a game and 5-6 rebounds.
I figured that kid has it locked up for TVC Hocking. Any updates on TVC Ohio?