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Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:28 pm
by bburner
HoopsHotHead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:23 am
Anyone know if Speakman does anything besides score?......He should be the front runner at the halfway point.....
Yes. He is an athlete. Very fast, as there is no substitute for speed. He is a leaper as well so he can finish at the basket and rebound. He is a fierce competitor and does not shy away from contact. The game I saw vs NY all was on display as he scored 42. Complete player.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:03 pm
by Raider6309
Poo Bear wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:57 pm
Let's be honest , this is between yates and Speakman . From what I saw in the game I saw ....it's yates
Speakman is the better basketball player. The whole team runs through him. Yates for some reason just shoots three’s. Combs needs to put him under the basketball
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:07 pm
by Poo Bear
Raider6309 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:03 pm
Poo Bear wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:57 pm
Let's be honest , this is between yates and Speakman . From what I saw in the game I saw ....it's yates
Speakman is the better basketball player. The whole team runs through him. Yates for some reason just shoots three’s. Combs needs to put him under the basketball
Disagree . Like I said I only have a 1 game sample but during the Jackson Game Speakman was held in check and it was obvious that Jackson was as athletic as VC and was probably on its way to a huge road win at VC . Yates stepped up and took the game over with 3s , fierce drives to the basket and the refused to allow his team to lose on that particular night .
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:59 pm
by i83
Raider you want to Yates under basket when you have two players that are 6 8and 6 6 and kid can shoot the 3 I will trust combs
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm
by Ironman92
I’ll let Combs decide. Just seeing one game Yates is tougher matchup and better player.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:52 pm
by 93Bulldog
Ironman92 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm
I’ll let Combs decide. Just seeing one game Yates is tougher matchup and better player.
The player you nominate does not necessarily have to be from your own team. Combs can put up Yates, but if another coach really likes Speakman - he can nominate him. I mean, most generally coaches will go along with what the coach does (in this case Combs), but it's not a rule that you have to nominate a player from your own team.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:22 pm
by Ironman92
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:52 pm
Ironman92 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:20 pm
I’ll let Combs decide. Just seeing one game Yates is tougher matchup and better player.
The player you nominate does not necessarily have to be from your own team. Combs can put up Yates, but if another coach really likes Speakman - he can nominate him. I mean, most generally coaches will go along with what the coach does (in this case Combs), but it's not a rule that you have to nominate a player from your own team.
C’mon man
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:51 pm
by 93Bulldog
hahahahaha its my whole goal in life to confuse you I92.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:04 pm
by Ironman92
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:51 pm
hahahahaha its my whole goal in life to confuse you I92.
You are drunj or something though. I’m sure Combs will probably nominate a non-VC kid for POY....seems likely
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:11 pm
by 93Bulldog
Ironman92 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:04 pm
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:51 pm
hahahahaha its my whole goal in life to confuse you I92.
You are drunj or something though. I’m sure Combs will probably nominate a non-VC kid for POY....seems likely
I highly doubt that. He will put up the kid who is most deserving - or the best player ... And this year it just so happens they both play for Vinton.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:53 am
by Fletchlives
Do bad none of you have a vote lol
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:26 pm
by hateraid
Just curious I wonder if anyone knows how many Vinton County players have won this award over the last 15 years? Seems like someone from VC wins or is in the running every year.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
by tvc_fan
My question is and I doubt it, But if Yates and Speakmen are both both in the running, could that maybe make each one play a little more individual wise to try to get it. I figure they are team first, but inside of them both it personally might affect whether they make that pass or not.
I have seen Speakmen one time and he was impressive, Seen spurts where he played out of control, but he was all over the place, I was impressed. I had never seen him before in previous years, was he a transfer? or was Bartoe and them overshadowing him in VC.
It really is hard to judge for a POY this early, many things could happen. What happens if one has to miss many games?
I think VC needs both of them, because when Yates was injured. VC was struggling to get Wins.
Looking forward to when VC comes to Meigs and see if having all Meigs players healthy makes a difference.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:15 pm
by Ironman92
tvc_fan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
My question is and I doubt it, But if Yates and Speakmen are both both in the running, could that maybe make each one play a little more individual wise to try to get it. I figure they are team first, but inside of them both it personally might affect whether they make that pass or not.
I have seen Speakmen one time and he was impressive, Seen spurts where he played out of control, but he was all over the place, I was impressed. I had never seen him before in previous years, was he a transfer? or was Bartoe and them overshadowing him in VC.
It really is hard to judge for a POY this early, many things could happen. What happens if one has to miss many games?
I think VC needs both of them, because when Yates was injured. VC was struggling to get Wins.
Looking forward to when VC comes to Meigs and see if having all Meigs players healthy makes a difference.
Speakman was on the team last year and from VC
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:31 pm
by Truth&fiction
tvc_fan wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:04 pm
My question is and I doubt it, But if Yates and Speakmen are both both in the running, could that maybe make each one play a little more individual wise to try to get it. I figure they are team first, but inside of them both it personally might affect whether they make that pass or not.
I have seen Speakmen one time and he was impressive, Seen spurts where he played out of control, but he was all over the place, I was impressed. I had never seen him before in previous years, was he a transfer? or was Bartoe and them overshadowing him in VC.
It really is hard to judge for a POY this early, many things could happen. What happens if one has to miss many games?
I think VC needs both of them, because when Yates was injured. VC was struggling to get Wins.
Looking forward to when VC comes to Meigs and see if having all Meigs players healthy makes a difference.
I got to thinking .......With Yates out VC struggled . If it was reversed and Speakman was out would they have struggled ? Will they still struggle at times with Both. Some good games coming up so we will see .
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:39 pm
by danicalifornia
Look at the game against Nelsonville York, Speakman had to score 40 just to get them to OT without Yates. To me, that shows how incredibly valuable both of them are to the Vikings success, especially if they happen to roll the Buckeyes in their next meeting.
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:42 pm
by 93Bulldog
2009 - Greg Frost (Alex)
2010 - Corey Butcher (Athens)
2011 - Jack Hart (Alex)
2012 - Nigel Courts (Wellston)
2013 - Jordan Kidd (VC)
2014 - Ibi Watson (Athens)
2015 - Joe Burrow (Athens)
2016 - Griffin Lutz (Athens)
2017 - Griffin Lutz (Athens), Tristen Bartoe (VC)
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:44 pm
by Ironman92
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:42 pm
2009 - Greg Frost (Alex)
2010 - Corey Butcher (Athens)
2011 - Jack Hart (Alex)
2012 - Nigel Courts (Wellston)
2013 - Jordan Kidd (VC)
2014 - Ibi Watson (Athens)
2015 - Joe Burrow (Athens)
2016 - Griffin Lutz (Athens)
2017 - Griffin Lutz (Athens), Tristen Bartoe (VC)
Interested in the entire list
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:56 pm
by 93Bulldog
That's all I've got. Started tracking when Athens joined league
Re: Possible POY in TVC
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:27 pm
by tvc_fan
93Bulldog wrote: ↑Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:42 pm
2009 - Greg Frost (Alex)
2010 - Corey Butcher (Athens)
2011 - Jack Hart (Alex)
2012 - Nigel Courts (Wellston)
2013 - Jordan Kidd (VC)
2014 - Ibi Watson (Athens)
2015 - Joe Burrow (Athens)
2016 - Griffin Lutz (Athens)
2017 - Griffin Lutz (Athens), Tristen Bartoe (VC)
just happy to see a Meigs kid in the mix this year...lol