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Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:28 pm
by Raider6309
Swanker Pine wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:39 am If I became a Zebra I’d have to retire from SEOPS and I dont know if it’s worth it 😂
We could do a Wheelersburg game. That might be worth it :lol:

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:09 pm
by The Ghost of Swanker
Ironman92 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:48 am
Swanker Pine wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:39 am If I became a Zebra I’d have to retire from SEOPS and I dont know if it’s worth it 😂
Why would you have to retire? There are at least 3 or 4 on here.
Yeah but ain’t none of em THE Swanker Pine.

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:52 pm
by Jack Sparrow
Crab's Brother wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:49 am And yes, anyone that wants 2 man crews has never done a game with 3 and then tried to go back to 3.

Night and day.
Bingo. See every play better with three. That means you are less likely to guess. So that means less whistles, or whistle On plays that need whistles.
And remember, NO ONE, has ever reffed a perfect game. We are all human

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:58 pm
by mlittle
Jack Sparrow wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:52 pm
Crab's Brother wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:49 am And yes, anyone that wants 2 man crews has never done a game with 3 and then tried to go back to 3.

Night and day.
Bingo. See every play better with three. That means you are less likely to guess. So that means less whistles, or whistle On plays that need whistles.
And remember, NO ONE, has ever reffed a perfect game. We are all human
Some of these 3 man crews need 4

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:06 pm
by BBALL99
I've watched a lot of basketball this year from biddy to HS and I think the officiating has been very good.

The biggest thing I've noticed is how consistent the officials have been this year. Some crews let them play more than others, but they have been consistent in their calls throughout the game.

IMO, the coaches have also seemed not as loud and vocal this year while talking to the officials.

Overall, I think the officials do a great job

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:22 pm
by Jack Sparrow
mlittle wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:58 pm
Jack Sparrow wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 4:52 pm
Crab's Brother wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:49 am And yes, anyone that wants 2 man crews has never done a game with 3 and then tried to go back to 3.

Night and day.
Bingo. See every play better with three. That means you are less likely to guess. So that means less whistles, or whistle On plays that need whistles.
And remember, NO ONE, has ever reffed a perfect game. We are all human
Some of these 3 man crews need 4
😂

I’ll say this, and y’all can disagree if you want, officiating has changed just like the game of basketball has changed. The NBA, AAU and the all mighty dollar has changed basketball. Officials, independent contractors I might add, have a lot on their plates. Not only dealing with what’s between the lines, but what’s outside the lines as well.
There aren’t enough coaches on the mold of Norm Persin, steve Jenkins, Tom Barrick jim Osborne, the Merit brothers, I could go one. Discipline and respect needs a wake up call.
98% of officials I see, doo a great job, and do it for the love of the game.
JMO

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:44 pm
by Kurgan74
I have enjoyed officiating over the past couple of years. I
Have been fortunate thus far to have avoided many of the
horror stories many officials have avoided (aside from adult Rex league ball, and I will NEVER do that again).

I feel a major reason for the low numbers of officials is the
Time constraints. Level 2 officials (JV and below) need to be onsite at least 45 minutes before the game starts. With most JV starting at 6 and Jr. High starting at 5:30, it can be tough getting off work to make the games. Some employers, like my current one, do not allow early departures, thus I have to turn down many games.

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:52 pm
by Ironman92
Kurgan74 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:44 pm I have enjoyed officiating over the past couple of years. I
Have been fortunate thus far to have avoided many of the
horror stories many officials have avoided (aside from adult Rex league ball, and I will NEVER do that again).

I feel a major reason for the low numbers of officials is the
Time constraints. Level 2 officials (JV and below) need to be onsite at least 45 minutes before the game starts. With most JV starting at 6 and Jr. High starting at 5:30, it can be tough getting off work to make the games. Some employers, like my current one, do not allow early departures, thus I have to turn down many games.
Good point

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:31 am
by danicalifornia
Ironman92 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:52 pm
Kurgan74 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:44 pm I have enjoyed officiating over the past couple of years. I
Have been fortunate thus far to have avoided many of the
horror stories many officials have avoided (aside from adult Rex league ball, and I will NEVER do that again).

I feel a major reason for the low numbers of officials is the
Time constraints. Level 2 officials (JV and below) need to be onsite at least 45 minutes before the game starts. With most JV starting at 6 and Jr. High starting at 5:30, it can be tough getting off work to make the games. Some employers, like my current one, do not allow early departures, thus I have to turn down many games.
Good point
Agreed. I would think that 10 minutes (dressed and ready) would suffice for lower level games, especially if there is a shortage. That’s too bad to hear that some officials have to give up games for that reason

Re: Officiating in the Area

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:43 am
by Bulldog84
Crab's Brother wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:49 am I do it because I love the game and I love the bond that we share as officials.

But the way people act is driving people away in droves. People are always going to disagree with calls. It happens. But buying a $5 ticket to a game should not be a permit to berate the officials.

I have 9 games this week. There are literally no officials out there. I had a game to fill three weeks ago. I contacted over 60 people and all of them were booked.

If people started having a little more class in the stands, I believe there would be more officials to go around.
I agree with what you are saying but, the officials need to have a little more class as well. I watched it last night, the officials were so worried about talking smack to the crowd that the game was completely out of control. If you ignore something then that problem will usually disappear. And today’s refs continue to add fuel to the fire by arguing back. If someone is heckling you that bad you need to remove them from the game immediately and that sends a message to everyone else.