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A summary of D-II Pre-Tournament Information in the Southeast District

JAN. 30 OHSAA RPI RANKING:
Team Record 1/28 RPI
1. Marietta (14-2) 0.655670
2. Warren (13-2) 0.649095
3. Washington CH (11-2) 0.638373
4. New Lexington (14-3) 0.632262
5. Miami Trace (13-4) 0.622253
6. Meigs (13-2) 0.619438
7. Unioto (10-5) 0.585343
8. Jackson (12-5) 0.579622
9. Vinton County (11-3) 0.576300


OPPONENT'S WINNING PERCENTAGE (Estimated) REMAINING PRE-SEEDING GAMES:
1. Marietta .695
2. Warren .478
3. New Lexington .370
4. Washington CH .629
5. Miami Trace .884
6. Meigs .453
7. Unioto .375
8. Jackson .418
9. Vinton County .565

KEY REMAINING GAMES:
*Marietta vs. Meigs, Vinton County, Fed Hocking; *Washington CH vs. Miami Trace, Vinton County; *Miami Trace vs. Minford, Washington CH, Fairfield; *Vinton County vs. Marietta, Washington CH; *Meigs vs.Marietta, Jackson; *Unioto vs. Westfall; *Jackson vs. Meigs.

TUESDAY MORNING TAKEAWAY: The OHSAA RPI Rankings change often (four times in the past 24 hours). The primary change this morning was the removal of the Linsley game from Warren's schedule (the records here reflect only games factored into the OHSAA tournament seeding).

One positive for Unioto is that their games before the slots lock in are against teams with slightly better than win% than what the last few will be. They are playing much better now and have played a challenging schedule overall, but it will be very tough to even get to the Convo, let alone win the district.

Whoever wins it will definitely earn it.

danicalifornia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:24 pm One positive for Unioto is that their games before the slots lock in are against teams with slightly better than win% than what the last few will be. They are playing much better now and have played a challenging schedule overall, but it will be very tough to even get to the Convo, let alone win the district.

Whoever wins it will definitely earn it.

Unioto appears to have just one game left against a team with .500 record or better, so no help with OWP factor. But they could win out which should give them a top 8 seed.

The D2 district is gonna be an absolute dogfight. New Lex is a team that I thought would struggle after losing 3 or 4 starters but has seemed to pick back up after last season's district final loss with some big wins against East district competition, shame we don't have any posters from that area anymore. Thinking ahead and looking at the bracket online it lists the East #1 playing the Central #2 and the East #2 playing the Southeast team in the regional. Is that subject to change based upon where a team picks or is that set in stone?

SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:46 pm

danicalifornia wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:24 pm One positive for Unioto is that their games before the slots lock in are against teams with slightly better than win% than what the last few will be. They are playing much better now and have played a challenging schedule overall, but it will be very tough to even get to the Convo, let alone win the district.

Whoever wins it will definitely earn it.

Unioto appears to have just one game left against a team with .500 record or better, so no help with OWP factor. But they could win out which should give them a top 8 seed.

Yes, but games against WP killers Paint Valley and Huntington are after the draw.

Hookshot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:35 pm A summary of D-II Pre-Tournament Information in the Southeast District

JAN. 28 OHSAA RPI RANKING:
Team Record 1/28 RPI
1. Marietta (14-2) 0.651104
2. Warren (13-3) 0.637988
3. New Lexington (14-3) 0.637040
4. Washington CH (11-2) 0.635489
5. Miami Trace (13-4) 0.621542
6. Meigs (13-2) 0.616327
7. Vinton County (12-3) 0.588174
8. Unioto (10-5) 0.586595
9. Jackson (12-5) 0.577487

OPPONENT'S WINNING PERCENTAGE (Estimated) REMAINING PRE-SEEDING GAMES:
1. Marietta .700
2. Warren .478
3. New Lexington .355
4. Washington CH .629
5. Miami Trace .884
6. Meigs .460
7. Vinton County .565
8. Unioto .375
9. Jackson .426

KEY REMAINING GAMES:
*Marietta vs. Meigs, Vinton County, Fed Hocking; *Washington CH vs. Miami Trace, Vinton County; *Miami Trace vs. Minford, Washington CH, Fairfield; *Vinton County vs. Marietta, Washington CH; *Meigs vs.Marietta, Jackson; *Unioto vs. Westfall; *Jackson vs. Meigs.

TAKEAWAY: If anyone sees any errors here (missing games not on Max Preps or school websites) please weigh in. Based on what we know, numerous teams still with active chances to gain a high seed. There is great variation in remaining opponent's won-loss percentages, which are not now reflected in the overall RPI but which can impact the final RPI. While having a higher OWP (e.g. Miami Trace and Marietta) is helpful, logically those games are also more difficult to win. On the other hand, barring significant upsets, some teams should win out and at least have a strong winning percentage, even if the remaining OWP is lower. Just thought D-II followers might value this summary.

It was asked earlier about Washington Courthouse’s schedule and apparent lack of games. Any answer to that? Are they in a tournament that is not listed yet on the schedule. Just asking as they have a shot at the No. 1 seed if they win out, and maybe even if they lose one more.

What is the date for the end of tounament seeding?

Bozo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:00 pm What is the date for the end of tounament seeding?

Games through Feb. 9.

VC and Jackson are scheduled to play as well.

VCTailgater wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:53 pm VC and Jackson are scheduled to play as well.

I see now this game will not matter in seeding.

Whs95fan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 2:46 pm The D2 district is gonna be an absolute dogfight. New Lex is a team that I thought would struggle after losing 3 or 4 starters but has seemed to pick back up after last season's district final loss with some big wins against East district competition, shame we don't have any posters from that area anymore. Thinking ahead and looking at the bracket online it lists the East #1 playing the Central #2 and the East #2 playing the Southeast team in the regional. Is that subject to change based upon where a team picks or is that set in stone?

The regional matchups will stay the same as listed. The only thing dependent on where a team picks is that the #1 in the East can choose to go into East #1 or #2. Typically they go the route of playing the Southeast in the Regional Semi, however, last year Maysville was #1 and elected to play the Central district in the semis.

VCTailgater wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:55 pm

VCTailgater wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:53 pm VC and Jackson are scheduled to play as well.

I see now this game will not matter in seeding.

There are actually quite a few good games after the seeding deadline.

Hookshot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:35 pm A summary of D-II Pre-Tournament Information in the Southeast District

JAN. 29 OHSAA RPI RANKING:
Team Record 1/28 RPI
1. Marietta (14-2) 0.651526
2. Warren (13-3) 0.638344
3. Washington CH (11-2) 0.636457
4. New Lexington (14-3) 0.632862
5. Miami Trace (13-4) 0.622197
6. Meigs (13-2) 0.617066
7. Vinton County (12-3) 0.587830
8. Unioto (10-5) 0.586980
9. Jackson (12-5) 0.578022

OPPONENT'S WINNING PERCENTAGE (Estimated) REMAINING PRE-SEEDING GAMES:
1. Marietta .700
2. Warren .478
3. New Lexington .355
4. Washington CH .629
5. Miami Trace .884
6. Meigs .460
7. Vinton County .565
8. Unioto .375
9. Jackson .426

KEY REMAINING GAMES:
*Marietta vs. Meigs, Vinton County, Fed Hocking; *Washington CH vs. Miami Trace, Vinton County; *Miami Trace vs. Minford, Washington CH, Fairfield; *Vinton County vs. Marietta, Washington CH; *Meigs vs.Marietta, Jackson; *Unioto vs. Westfall; *Jackson vs. Meigs.

TAKEAWAY: If anyone sees any errors here (missing games not on Max Preps or school websites) please weigh in. Based on what we know, numerous teams still with active chances to gain a high seed. There is great variation in remaining opponent's won-loss percentages, which are not now reflected in the overall RPI but which can impact the final RPI. While having a higher OWP (e.g. Miami Trace and Marietta) is helpful, logically those games are also more difficult to win. On the other hand, barring significant upsets, some teams should win out and at least have a strong winning percentage, even if the remaining OWP is lower. Just thought D-II followers might value this summary.

NOTE: Modest update. RPI numbers adjusted by MaxPreps over the past 24 hours. Washington Court House moved slightly ahead of New Lexington.

If only computers could quickly do math

Ed Ott wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:25 am If only computers could quickly do math

SouthEast Hoops Fan wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 6:39 pm

VCTailgater wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:55 pm

VCTailgater wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 5:53 pm VC and Jackson are scheduled to play as well.

I see now this game will not matter in seeding.

There are actually quite a few good games after the seeding deadline.

Agreed...
I'm certainly not predicting outcomes, but VC/Jackson and Jackson/Wash CH are both after the deadline, which could be good points for both winners of those games.

Hookshot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:35 pm A summary of D-II Pre-Tournament Information in the Southeast District

JAN. 28 OHSAA RPI RANKING:
Team Record 1/28 RPI
1. Marietta (14-2) 0.652747
2. Warren (13-3) 0.639993
3. Washington CH (11-2) 0.638046
4. New Lexington (14-3) 0.631594
5. Miami Trace (13-4) 0.622208
6. Meigs (13-2) 0.619013
7. Unioto (10-5) 0.584476
8. Jackson (12-5) 0.579254
9. Vinton County (11-3) 0.575954


OPPONENT'S WINNING PERCENTAGE (Estimated) REMAINING PRE-SEEDING GAMES:
1. Marietta .700
2. Warren .478
3. New Lexington .355
4. Washington CH .629
5. Miami Trace .884
6. Meigs .460
7. Vinton County .565
8. Unioto .375
9. Jackson .426

KEY REMAINING GAMES:
*Marietta vs. Meigs, Vinton County, Fed Hocking; *Washington CH vs. Miami Trace, Vinton County; *Miami Trace vs. Minford, Washington CH, Fairfield; *Vinton County vs. Marietta, Washington CH; *Meigs vs.Marietta, Jackson; *Unioto vs. Westfall; *Jackson vs. Meigs.

TAKEAWAY: If anyone sees any errors here (missing games not on Max Preps or school websites) please weigh in. Based on what we know, numerous teams still with active chances to gain a high seed. There is great variation in remaining opponent's won-loss percentages, which are not now reflected in the overall RPI but which can impact the final RPI. While having a higher OWP (e.g. Miami Trace and Marietta) is helpful, logically those games are also more difficult to win. On the other hand, barring significant upsets, some teams should win out and at least have a strong winning percentage, even if the remaining OWP is lower. Just thought D-II followers might value this summary.

OHSAA MAX PREPS Updated again as of Monday Night, January 29. Biggest change was Vinton County losing one of it's wins, presumably New Hope Christian Academy as it does not appear they are counted among a team's official won-loss record for seeding purposes (non-OHSAA affiliated). Moving VC to 11-3 dropped them below Unioto and Jackson. Again, if there are other factors or errors, please inform.

Hookshot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:00 pm

Hookshot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:35 pm A summary of D-II Pre-Tournament Information in the Southeast District

JAN. 28 OHSAA RPI RANKING:
Team Record 1/28 RPI
1. Marietta (14-2) 0.652747
2. Warren (13-3) 0.639993
3. Washington CH (11-2) 0.638046
4. New Lexington (14-3) 0.631594
5. Miami Trace (13-4) 0.622208
6. Meigs (13-2) 0.619013
7. Unioto (10-5) 0.584476
8. Jackson (12-5) 0.579254
9. Vinton County (11-3) 0.575954


OPPONENT'S WINNING PERCENTAGE (Estimated) REMAINING PRE-SEEDING GAMES:
1. Marietta .700
2. Warren .478
3. New Lexington .355
4. Washington CH .629
5. Miami Trace .884
6. Meigs .460
7. Vinton County .565
8. Unioto .375
9. Jackson .426

KEY REMAINING GAMES:
*Marietta vs. Meigs, Vinton County, Fed Hocking; *Washington CH vs. Miami Trace, Vinton County; *Miami Trace vs. Minford, Washington CH, Fairfield; *Vinton County vs. Marietta, Washington CH; *Meigs vs.Marietta, Jackson; *Unioto vs. Westfall; *Jackson vs. Meigs.

TAKEAWAY: If anyone sees any errors here (missing games not on Max Preps or school websites) please weigh in. Based on what we know, numerous teams still with active chances to gain a high seed. There is great variation in remaining opponent's won-loss percentages, which are not now reflected in the overall RPI but which can impact the final RPI. While having a higher OWP (e.g. Miami Trace and Marietta) is helpful, logically those games are also more difficult to win. On the other hand, barring significant upsets, some teams should win out and at least have a strong winning percentage, even if the remaining OWP is lower. Just thought D-II followers might value this summary.

OHSAA MAX PREPS Updated again as of Monday Night, January 29. Biggest change was Vinton County losing one of it's wins, presumably New Hope Christian Academy as it does not appear they are counted among a team's official won-loss record for seeding purposes (non-OHSAA affiliated). Moving VC to 11-3 dropped them below Unioto and Jackson. Again, if there are other factors or errors, please inform.

Still a lot that can change before the draw, but Marietta potentially having to play Vinton County in a sectional final would be wild. Both capable of winning the district imo.

pioneer19 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:08 pm

Hookshot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:00 pm

Hookshot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 28, 2024 1:35 pm A summary of D-II Pre-Tournament Information in the Southeast District

JAN. 28 OHSAA RPI RANKING:
Team Record 1/28 RPI
1. Marietta (14-2) 0.652747
2. Warren (13-3) 0.639993
3. Washington CH (11-2) 0.638046
4. New Lexington (14-3) 0.631594
5. Miami Trace (13-4) 0.622208
6. Meigs (13-2) 0.619013
7. Unioto (10-5) 0.584476
8. Jackson (12-5) 0.579254
9. Vinton County (11-3) 0.575954


OPPONENT'S WINNING PERCENTAGE (Estimated) REMAINING PRE-SEEDING GAMES:
1. Marietta .700
2. Warren .478
3. New Lexington .355
4. Washington CH .629
5. Miami Trace .884
6. Meigs .460
7. Vinton County .565
8. Unioto .375
9. Jackson .426

KEY REMAINING GAMES:
*Marietta vs. Meigs, Vinton County, Fed Hocking; *Washington CH vs. Miami Trace, Vinton County; *Miami Trace vs. Minford, Washington CH, Fairfield; *Vinton County vs. Marietta, Washington CH; *Meigs vs.Marietta, Jackson; *Unioto vs. Westfall; *Jackson vs. Meigs.

TAKEAWAY: If anyone sees any errors here (missing games not on Max Preps or school websites) please weigh in. Based on what we know, numerous teams still with active chances to gain a high seed. There is great variation in remaining opponent's won-loss percentages, which are not now reflected in the overall RPI but which can impact the final RPI. While having a higher OWP (e.g. Miami Trace and Marietta) is helpful, logically those games are also more difficult to win. On the other hand, barring significant upsets, some teams should win out and at least have a strong winning percentage, even if the remaining OWP is lower. Just thought D-II followers might value this summary.

OHSAA MAX PREPS Updated again as of Monday Night, January 29. Biggest change was Vinton County losing one of it's wins, presumably New Hope Christian Academy as it does not appear they are counted among a team's official won-loss record for seeding purposes (non-OHSAA affiliated). Moving VC to 11-3 dropped them below Unioto and Jackson. Again, if there are other factors or errors, please inform.

Still a lot that can change before the draw, but Marietta potentially having to play Vinton County in a sectional final would be wild. Both capable of winning the district imo.

The Southeast district is very competitive with quite a bit of parity. Any of these 9 teams can win against anyone else on a given night.

Hookshot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:28 pm

pioneer19 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:08 pm

Hookshot wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2024 8:00 pm

OHSAA MAX PREPS Updated again as of Monday Night, January 29. Biggest change was Vinton County losing one of it's wins, presumably New Hope Christian Academy as it does not appear they are counted among a team's official won-loss record for seeding purposes (non-OHSAA affiliated). Moving VC to 11-3 dropped them below Unioto and Jackson. Again, if there are other factors or errors, please inform.

Still a lot that can change before the draw, but Marietta potentially having to play Vinton County in a sectional final would be wild. Both capable of winning the district imo.

The Southeast district is very competitive with quite a bit of parity. Any of these 9 teams can win against anyone else on a given night.

According to @vcgrad and @The Ghost of Swanker, VC is done. You can go ahead and cross them off the list.