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Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:26 am
by chiefs76
This one is going to be interesting. Circeville and Sheridan are locks . Vinton County beat both Warren and unito in head to head this is where strength of schedule debate will come into play?? Vinton County has has the toughest schedule of everyone...

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 1:29 pm
by bman
chiefs76 wrote: Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:26 am This one is going to be interesting. Circeville and Sheridan are locks . Vinton County beat both Warren and unito in head to head this is where strength of schedule debate will come into play?? Vinton County has has the toughest schedule of everyone...
I can make an argument for seeding Vinton over Unioto. I think the top three are pretty set, barring an upset or two this week.

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:11 pm
by mattash
updated

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 am
by Mark 5
Prediction

1. Circleville
2. Sheridan
3. Warren
4. Vinton County
5. Unioto
6. Miami Trace
7. Fairfield Union
8. Waverly
9. Logan Elm
10. Greenfield
11. Washington C.H.
12. River Valley
13. Chillicothe
14. Gallipolis
15. Hillsboro
16. Meigs
17. Athens
18. Jackson

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 am
by hiabuckeye
Warren is ranked above Sheridan in AP poll? Fairfield Union #4.

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:50 am
by kram
New Lex is in D3 and Meigs is in D2

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:55 am
by hawkeyepierce
So here we go....as I stated in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82535 Vinton County schedule up, and I mean "UP." And because they have and suffered five losses, they are not getting credit for the schedule. Granted the home loss to Nelsonville was a bad loss, but the others, come on. All road losses to a DI, 17-2 Newark, 16-1 Wheelersburg, 15-1 Fort Frye, and a DI 13-6 Olentangy Liberty, a combined record of 61-10. Furthermore, the Vikings have wins against Warren and Unioto, two teams bman has ahead of the Vikings.

So, as I expected, no one is given credit for quality losses. But yet, it remains to be seen how this little experiment plays out during tournament time.

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:28 am
by Mark 5
Yes I knew their schedule was tough. That should help them in the tournament. It is going to be tough for anyone to come out. It is loaded with good teams. I have no dog in the fight. My pick to come out of these 18 would probably be Sheridan but probably going to get the best team out of Columbus (Jonathan Alder) in the Regionals.

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:08 pm
by LeftHanded
hawkeyepierce wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:55 am So here we go....as I stated in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82535 Vinton County schedule up, and I mean "UP." And because they have and suffered five losses, they are not getting credit for the schedule. Granted the home loss to Nelsonville was a bad loss, but the others, come on. All road losses to a DI, 17-2 Newark, 16-1 Wheelersburg, 15-1 Fort Frye, and a DI 13-6 Olentangy Liberty, a combined record of 61-10. Furthermore, the Vikings have wins against Warren and Unioto, two teams bman has ahead of the Vikings.

So, as I expected, no one is given credit for quality losses. But yet, it remains to be seen how this little experiment plays out during tournament time.
I think 4 is appropriate for VC. Yes, we beat Warren but they handled Nelsonville and beat Fort Frye in a close one. Definitely think we should be ahead of Unioto though

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 12:40 pm
by SEFan
Mark 5 wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 am Prediction

1. Circleville
2. Sheridan
3. Warren
4. Vinton County
5. Unioto
6. Miami Trace
7. Fairfield Union
8. Waverly
9. Logan Elm
10. Greenfield
11. Washington C.H.
12. River Valley
13. Chillicothe
14. Gallipolis
15. Hillsboro
16. Meigs
17. Athens
18. Jackson
I’m commenting on all 3 of your posts. I think move VC in front of Warren. Pay respect to the schedule. RV drop before Chilli. FU above MT. Pretty good!

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 1:38 pm
by Mark 5
Warren has such tradition. Just seem to know how to win. This is going to be an unbelievable tournament this year.

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 pm
by bman
hawkeyepierce wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:55 am So here we go....as I stated in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82535 Vinton County schedule up, and I mean "UP." And because they have and suffered five losses, they are not getting credit for the schedule. Granted the home loss to Nelsonville was a bad loss, but the others, come on. All road losses to a DI, 17-2 Newark, 16-1 Wheelersburg, 15-1 Fort Frye, and a DI 13-6 Olentangy Liberty, a combined record of 61-10. Furthermore, the Vikings have wins against Warren and Unioto, two teams bman has ahead of the Vikings.

So, as I expected, no one is given credit for quality losses. But yet, it remains to be seen how this little experiment plays out during tournament time.
I'd personally seed Vinton at four over Unioto, but the district tends to vote record over strength of schedule, although we are finally starting to make a little progress there over the last few years, which is why I listed it as I did. I'd seed Warren ahead of Vinton. Warren also defeated Fort Frye, which Vinton recently lost to.

Ultimately, when we are arguing the 4-5, we are arguing jersey color for the district final, because I see both teams holding serve to set that meeting up,

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:35 am
by mattash
corrected

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:10 pm
by hawkeyepierce
bman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 pm
hawkeyepierce wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:55 am So here we go....as I stated in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82535 Vinton County schedule up, and I mean "UP." And because they have and suffered five losses, they are not getting credit for the schedule. Granted the home loss to Nelsonville was a bad loss, but the others, come on. All road losses to a DI, 17-2 Newark, 16-1 Wheelersburg, 15-1 Fort Frye, and a DI 13-6 Olentangy Liberty, a combined record of 61-10. Furthermore, the Vikings have wins against Warren and Unioto, two teams bman has ahead of the Vikings.

So, as I expected, no one is given credit for quality losses. But yet, it remains to be seen how this little experiment plays out during tournament time.
I'd personally seed Vinton at four over Unioto, but the district tends to vote record over strength of schedule, although we are finally starting to make a little progress there over the last few years, which is why I listed it as I did. I'd seed Warren ahead of Vinton. Warren also defeated Fort Frye, which Vinton recently lost to.

Ultimately, when we are arguing the 4-5, we are arguing jersey color for the district final, because I see both teams holding serve to set that meeting up,
Which is my argument, being that Vinton County is never tested come tourney time, "...they play a weak schedule..." "...the TVC is horrible..." and so on. So when you schedule up, and you lose, it doesn't mean anything. Maybe come tournament time, it may, we will see, but as far as seeding it doesn't mean anything. You are never given consideration for quality losses, just losses. So now, with the super sectional, the Lady Vikings may have a tougher row to hoe, to get to a district final. Especially this year, because this district is freaking loaded.

As I have always said; "There is a fine line in scheduling to be competitive and tested than beaten and discouraged."

Re: Division II seeding

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:51 pm
by Ironman92
hawkeyepierce wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:10 pm
bman wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:31 pm
hawkeyepierce wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:55 am So here we go....as I stated in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82535 Vinton County schedule up, and I mean "UP." And because they have and suffered five losses, they are not getting credit for the schedule. Granted the home loss to Nelsonville was a bad loss, but the others, come on. All road losses to a DI, 17-2 Newark, 16-1 Wheelersburg, 15-1 Fort Frye, and a DI 13-6 Olentangy Liberty, a combined record of 61-10. Furthermore, the Vikings have wins against Warren and Unioto, two teams bman has ahead of the Vikings.

So, as I expected, no one is given credit for quality losses. But yet, it remains to be seen how this little experiment plays out during tournament time.
I'd personally seed Vinton at four over Unioto, but the district tends to vote record over strength of schedule, although we are finally starting to make a little progress there over the last few years, which is why I listed it as I did. I'd seed Warren ahead of Vinton. Warren also defeated Fort Frye, which Vinton recently lost to.

Ultimately, when we are arguing the 4-5, we are arguing jersey color for the district final, because I see both teams holding serve to set that meeting up,
Which is my argument, being that Vinton County is never tested come tourney time, "...they play a weak schedule..." "...the TVC is horrible..." and so on. So when you schedule up, and you lose, it doesn't mean anything. Maybe come tournament time, it may, we will see, but as far as seeding it doesn't mean anything. You are never given consideration for quality losses, just losses. So now, with the super sectional, the Lady Vikings may have a tougher row to hoe, to get to a district final. Especially this year, because this district is freaking loaded.

As I have always said; "There is a fine line in scheduling to be competitive and tested than beaten and discouraged."
You guys went pretty big a couple times. With TVC schedule and Alexander and Nelsonville typically being 4 very quality opponents. Warren, Unioto, Miami Trace, McClain, Circleville, FU, Sheridan, Marietta, Oak Hill, Wheelersburg....a nice mixture of 4-5 of those teams should suffice IMO for that fine line.

Health more important than seed. Is everyone back and ok?

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball (Standings, Seeding Predictions & More)

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:27 am
by hawkeyepierce
Still nursing a couple of nagging injuries, but for the most part...yeah...after last night, we are better mentally too. Which is very important, being confident.

And if you look at last night scoring, they are awfully hard to beat, when you have Morgan and Cameron go for 18, Teagan 16, and Lacie with 14, we can be a tough match-up for anyone. I am sure none of those teams are looking forward to playing this 5 seed.

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball (Standings, Seeding Predictions & More)

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2020 12:10 pm
by Big Daddy 7371
since everyone wants to forgive VC for scheduling and injuries need to show
Jeff Miller at Unioto some love. They will take the 5 seed after everything that happend to them.
Lose 5'11 Riley Davis
Lose 5'11 Carissa Wheeler
Lose 5'10 Erin Callahan
Davis and Wheeler would have started with Callahan coming of the Bench
Miller has coached his butt of to get where they are and they aren't complaing
if those 3 are Healthy they go probably undefeated and where would VC be then 6-7 seed so just let the coaches decide and go from there

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball (Standings, Seeding Predictions & More)

Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:25 pm
by vcgrad
The games will decide in the long run. Good luck to all!!!!!
Go Lady Vikes.

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball (Standings, Seeding Predictions & More)

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:05 am
by mattash
1 Circleville 22 0 1.000 0 W22 57 31 25
2 Warren 21 1 0.955 1 W20 57 38 19
3 Sheridan 19 2 0.905 2.5 W5 55 36 20
4 Unioto 17 3 0.850 4 L1 51 36 15
5 Vinton County 17 5 0.773 5 W5 63 44 19
6 Miami Trace 16 5 0.762 5.5 W9 45 40 6
7 McClain 14 6 0.700 7 L1 46 41 5
8 Fairfield Union 15 7 0.682 7 L2 49 39 11
9 Logan Elm 14 8 0.636 8 W2 44 36 8
10 Waverly 12 7 0.632 8.5 W1 49 43 6
11 River Valley 12 9 0.571 9.5 W1 50 47 4
12 Washington 10 9 0.526 10.5 W2 46 42 4
13 Chillicothe 7 12 0.368 13.5 L1 37 44 -7
14 Gallia Academy 7 14 0.333 14.5 W1 43 48 -5
15 Hillsboro 6 15 0.286 15.5 L3 37 43 -6
16 Meigs 5 16 0.238 16.5 L1 44 59 -14
17 Athens 3 18 0.143 18.5 L10 38 55 -17
18 Jackson 3 18 0.143 18.5 W1 31 50 -19

Re: D2 2019-20 Girls Basketball

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:46 pm
by KRS
KRS wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:19 pm Circleville is the most complete team in the district. Good coaching, have great guard play and good size to compete on the regional level.
After watching the games tonight I'll stick with my prediction above from early January. Vinton will have to shoot lights out to make it interesting. Best of luck to both teams.