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Apparently, from what I saw last year, voting wasn't based on stats so that makes your argument invalid.

Coach’s vote, posters has no say n voting. period. I say this you say that and someone else says something else, doesn’t matter . Coachs, let’s say you was Coach and all these posters made these kind comments about the voting, I’m sure this doesn’t help the people that each poster wants to receive all the awards. Let the Coach’s vote and Coach and I hope they continue to do great jobs in each. Thankless jobs and then all the griping lol

longball wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:22 pm Apparently, from what I saw last year, voting wasn't based on stats so that makes your argument invalid.

Pretty sure ERA and wins and losses didn’t factor in at all for the pitcher of the year

Coaching is a thankless , hard hard job .. but dont make it tougher on your self by playing the good ole boy's routine of " I'll vote for yours , you vote for mine"

fbnut wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:53 pm

longball wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:22 pm Apparently, from what I saw last year, voting wasn't based on stats so that makes your argument invalid.

Pretty sure ERA and wins and losses didn’t factor in at all for the pitcher of the year

Yea sure, I guess, depends on who you are.

In the big picture , is there pro softball. does any colleges give full rides and if so is it a small amount of money. in the big picture , percentages of girls or boys that receive scholarships and goes away, how long do they last, half a year, whole year, two years, look at odds on any of this, bottom line is the education in the end. This is way over blown nowadays. More of parents pushing and living there dreams out than anything. Travel ball is a recruiting grounds at younger ages and familys pull up and move because of a sport. Like I said its totally parents controlling all the win at all costs now a days, wheres the fun, it isnt college ball 365 days a year. LOL

Prime Time wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:51 pm In the big picture , is there pro softball. does any colleges give full rides and if so is it a small amount of money. in the big picture , percentages of girls or boys that receive scholarships and goes away, how long do they last, half a year, whole year, two years, look at odds on any of this, bottom line is the education in the end. This is way over blown nowadays. More of parents pushing and living there dreams out than anything. Travel ball is a recruiting grounds at younger ages and familys pull up and move because of a sport. Like I said its totally parents controlling all the win at all costs now a days, wheres the fun, it isnt college ball 365 days a year. LOL

EXACTLY..great post,enjoy your high school years because they are gone before you know it..and all this “recruiting” IS DEFINITELY blown up and when these girls and their parents get their “reality checks” will they be able to handle it?..I doubt it.. and that’s why very few make it for the long haul,education is top priority..sports are a bonus

1 Wheelersburg 19 2 0.905 208 54 154 9-1 W8
2 Waverly 17 5 0.773 162 71 91 6-4 W2
3 Minford 15 8 0.652 195 67 128 7-3 W3
4 Oak Hill 16 9 0.640 183 100 83 6-4 W1
5 South Webster 17 12 0.586 225 184 41 5-5 W1
6 Northwest 11 13 0.458 148 168 -20 7-3 W2
7 Portsmouth West 5 19 0.208 74 244 -170 1-9 L5
8 Valley 2 18 0.100 53 237 -184 2-8 L1

1 Wheelersburg 14 0 1.000 0 156 15 141 7-0 7-0 10-0 W14
2 Minford 10 4 0.714 4 124 37 87 6-1 4-3 7-3 W4
2 Waverly 10 4 0.714 4 100 43 57 5-2 5-2 7-3 W1
4 Oak Hill 9 5 0.643 5 104 43 61 4-3 5-2 7-3 L2
5 South Webster 6 8 0.429 8 71 89 -18 2-5 4-3 3-7 W1
6 Northwest 4 10 0.286 10 62 112 -50 2-5 2-5 4-6 L2
7 Portsmouth West 3 11 0.214 11 37 159 -122 0-6 3-5 2-8 L6
8 Valley 0 14 0.000 14 28 184 -156 0-8 0-6 0-10 L14



Wheelersburg (12)-(0) Northwest
Minford (4)-(3) Oak Hill
Northwest (1)-(18) Wheelersburg
Waverly (14)-(0) Valley
South Webster (3)-(5) Portsmouth West

Oak Hill (8)-(6) Minford
Portsmouth West (4)-(12) South Webster
Valley (0)-(11) Waverly
Minford (11)-(1) Valley
Northwest (8)-(9) South Webster

Oak Hill (1)-(8) Waverly
Wheelersburg (18)-(0) Portsmouth West
Valley (0)-(18) Minford
South Webster (11)-(4) Northwest
Waverly (2)-(7) Oak Hill

Portsmouth West (0)-(15) Wheelersburg
Minford (10)-(0) Northwest
Oak Hill (3)-(6) Wheelersburg
Waverly (12)-(0) Portsmouth West
South Webster (4)-(3) Valley

Northwest (1)-(11) Minford
Portsmouth West (2)-(14) Waverly
Valley (0)-(18) South Webster
Minford (1)-(2) Wheelersburg
Northwest (1)-(11) Oak Hill

Valley (9)-(11) Portsmouth West
South Webster (0)-(3) Waverly
Wheelersburg (6)-(3) Minford
Oak Hill (8)-(3) Northwest
Portsmouth West (11)-(9) Valley

Waverly (8)-(0) South Webster
Minford (7)-(0) Waverly
Northwest (9)-(0) Portsmouth West
Valley (0)-(15) Oak Hill
South Webster (0)-(12) Wheelersburg

Waverly (12)-(11) Minford
Portsmouth West (4)-(9) Northwest
Oak Hill (9)-(0) Valley
Wheelersburg (10)-(3) South Webster
Minford (10)-(0) South Webster

Portsmouth West (0)-(18) Oak Hill
Northwest (10)-(0) Valley
South Webster (4)-(13) Minford
Valley (6)-(12) Northwest
Oak Hill (12)-(0) Portsmouth West

Wheelersburg (7)-(1) Waverly
Valley (0)-(19) Wheelersburg
Portsmouth West (0)-(6) Minford
Northwest (0)-(6) Waverly
South Webster (4)-(7) Oak Hill

Wheelersburg (21)-(0) Valley
Oak Hill (2)-(3) South Webster
Waverly (3)-(4) Wheelersburg
Waverly (6)-(4) Northwest
Minford (13)-(0) Portsmouth West

Wheelersburg (6)-(0) Oak Hill

ManitouDan2 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:27 pm Coaching is a thankless , hard hard job .. but dont make it tougher on your self by playing the good ole boy's routine of " I'll vote for yours , you vote for mine"

Sat through many a meeting where this is the case. They create voting blocks. Very sad to see it happen but never fails to occur.

There is a lot of the good ole boy's voting happening in many leagues around here especially if the voters have a personal agenda. They can get votes by you scratch my back and I scratch yours.

There is always politics involved.. but, looking at not necessarily soc2, but just our general area on a map.. we have one of the if not the best area for softball in the state. Sure there are better teams throughout state, but from top to bottom.. it's hard to beat teams from SE Ohio