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Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:25 pm
by ManitouDan2
longball wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 3:23 pm Shouldn't use illegal bats no matter what type of player you are. I'm just curious as to why the bat was illegal?
Radio said it didnt have a stamp on it ... now 2-0 Peebles into the top of 6 .

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:41 pm
by ManitouDan2
Peebles with a gamble in the 7th .. walking Detwiller to get to Schaefer with 2 outs and runners on 2-3rd , to load bases

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:42 pm
by ManitouDan2
gamble pays off , fly out to LF to end game. Congrats to Peebles for a very well played game

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:54 pm
by BackroadHero
I'd love to hear more to this story honestly.
Umps haven't checked equipment in highschool for like 4 years now. It falls on the Coaches and i think they are actually subject to ejection for this.

But how did the bat not have a stamp? Every bat I've seen at stores and online ALWAYS have a Stamp. So I'd love to hear the details.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 3:58 pm
by ManitouDan2
tough loss , sounds like ND out hit them like 8-3 but didnt get the key hits.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:07 pm
by Real Time
The 2017-2018 Easton Ghost has 2 different models one that was approved for ASA/USA/ISF/HighSchool (Blue graphics) and one that is USSSA/NSA/ISA (gold graphics) i'm not sure is this is the bat in question.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:10 pm
by Spartan96
BackroadHero wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 3:54 pm I'd love to hear more to this story honestly.
Umps haven't checked equipment in highschool for like 4 years now. It falls on the Coaches and i think they are actually subject to ejection for this.

But how did the bat not have a stamp? Every bat I've seen at stores and online ALWAYS have a Stamp. So I'd love to hear the details.
I'm guessing it was probably the Easton Ghost. Easton makes 2 models
1. (ASA) legal for high school
2. (USSSA) illegal for high school, does not have ASA stamp

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:12 pm
by BackroadHero
Ah if that's the case that sucks for her. How many parents, players or coaches really would know the difference in the two??

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 6:35 pm
by Prime Time
Congrats to Peebles. Wow, So if what people are saying that it’s on the Coach’s job to check these bats, then there’s lots of assumptions as to why would they let this happen. 1. To give a advantage to batter and team.2. Don’t know the rules. 3. Turns head and acts like they’re oblivious to this rule.4. Win at any cost attitude and plays dumb. 5.or does this fall on umpires for not enforcing rules 6 and at some point someone had to see or know this bat was being used and said nothing. Lots of what ifs here. But great game and good luck in Regional finals to the Indians. I would like to know the Ohio athletic rules on this and who is responsible for enforcing these rules

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:10 pm
by EdAlexander
Way too much softball knowledge at Notre Dame to not know!! You can’t use that bat in an Asa tournament! They will throw it out faster than she can pull it out of the bag!! It’s very unfortunate. And just because she used it all year doesn’t make it right!

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 8:22 pm
by Jms
Thanks ManitouDan2 for your vote of confidence. You are absolutely right. We play by the rules and have never even used a rolled bar. A team “ghost” was purchased by one of the fathers and we all assumed it was legal since it is the 2019 model. They just got it in time for tournaments so it was NOT used all season. I (Cassie’s father) assumed it was the same ghost bat others on our team had used all season but I had not actually seen it up against them to see the difference. When I heard somebody say “gold lettering” at the game I looked it up and sure enough it is illegal for high school. I dont blame Peebles for pointing it out. If the shoes were in the other feet we would have done the same. I have coached travel ball for about 8 years now. You like to think you are on top of these things but sometimes the stupidest things slip by us. Both teams played great today. Unfortunately for us Peebles came out on top. I wish Peebles the best of luck and hope they go all the way!

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 9:29 pm
by ManitouDan2
^^ now that right there -- thats the definition of " you win with class you lose with class" very very well said JMS . In todays world to see something like that is really refreshing .

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 10:37 am
by longball
I can see now how easily it could have happened. Not sure why they would even make a separate Ghost that can't be used in ASA or high school..

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 12:40 pm
by HotDogSoftball
ManitouDan2 wrote: Wed May 22, 2019 9:29 pm ^^ now that right there -- thats the definition of " you win with class you lose with class" very very well said JMS . In todays world to see something like that is really refreshing .
....yeah after Confession.

Just kidding. 🤐🤪😂

It was a great game to watch!

Rules like this and others normally in southern Ohio are simply overlooked not by intentional purposes, but simply because honor system. Illegal pitches. Leaving early, bats, etc. are rarely called even though they happen all the time. But once it gets to the regional/State level. Everything is called by the book. Teams that plan to go this far should be playing to prepare for this level. If ND coaches knew shame on them for not correcting the situation. Any bat purchased should have some homework done before paying $400.00 or more.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 1:26 pm
by BackroadHero
Speaking with someone about this and they said it would be hard to confuse the two bats considering the price difference in the legal one vs the illegal one.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 2:15 pm
by Softballdad
You do realize the one that is illegal you can get cheaper. It’s not illegal because it’s hotter. It’s allowed in Little League.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 6:28 pm
by Prime Time
I think the Coach is responsible for making sure any new equipment, gloves, bats anything should be inspected and the Coach made aware of any new equipment. Players and Assistants need to make sure Head Coach is aware of any changes. Or players, parents kind of run things on this aspect. Plus know the rules and make sure players and parents and whoever know the difference.

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:52 am
by ManitouDan2
Who does Peebles play next ?

Re: 5/22 2:00PM (22-2) Notre Dame v (22-2) Peebles

Posted: Fri May 24, 2019 9:10 am
by SOSoftball
ManitouDan2 wrote: Fri May 24, 2019 8:52 am Who does Peebles play next ?
Danville. They beat Strasburg Franklin