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There are three things at play to consider:

1) Frank Solich is a solid coach. He is a program builder, a good recruiter and he consistently puts out well-prepared teams.

2) The FBS/1-A has gradually become an ever-evolving arms race toward the top in the past 20 years, across the ‘high-major’ (e.g. BCS/Power 6 conferences) and high-tier ‘mid-major’ (e.g. non-automatic qualifier/Group of 6) schools alike. The high-major schools are largely big dogs that are a class or two away from serious consideration toward the college football playoff; the high-flying G6 schools (e.g. Central Florida, Boise State, Memphis, U of Cincy) are more engineered structurally (by means of heavier investment toward the financial health of the football program and its facilities, an emphasis toward consistently seeking out coaches that can recruit strong etc) toward this push to the national conversation. At current, none of the MAC schools are and frankly I don’t think any of them, including OU, ever will be. With the Ohio schools in particular, they’re fighting a decades-long recruiting battle they’ve constantly lost ground in against their better-funded, more successful FBS peers (the Power 5 schools, high-flyer mid-major programs). When was the last time any MAC school crested the ranks of being in the national spotlight in postseason play? Northern Illinois six years or so ago, when they lost to Florida State? Before then? Miami (OH) in 03, a directional Michigan school here or there? That right there, although truly to no fault of OU, works against the Bobcats in the grander scheme of the ever-challenging climb toward “exceeding expectations” (however measured.)

3) Read the second point again.


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:30 pm
BobcatQB wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:20 pm Be careful what you wish for...ask Nebraska.
I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you, but where they truly cooked their butts for free was when they fired Bo Pelini.
And I'm not going to disagree with you either because he was definitely succesful (.710 winning %), slighly less than Solich (.753 winning %), at Nebraska. Pelini was let go because of his actions and things he said. I think it was a dumb move too but not my decision. Solich was let go because he wasn't Osborne. That was ridiculous. They were spoiled beyond belief with the success under Osborne and that will never happen again (.836 winning %).


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Raider6309 wrote: Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:17 pm Paladin was never really a coach and was just a average SEO player. Frank was an all time great at Nebraska and a great coach. He's a big reason Nebraska was a dynasty.
So you are saying every SEO player that received all league is a average player and the ones that do not make it suck. I never looked at it that way. Must be why big time coaches hardly come to look at SEO boys. I understand now.


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oldschoolqb13 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:15 pm Frank is a class act and one heck of a coach...we're lucky to have him. I wish he was the coach when I played there. Paladin, you need help...seriously bro. You couldn't even play for Jasper Tech but want to run down a D-1 conference. I don't know when you played, but I wish I played against you b/c you'd still be blowing snot bubbles!
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oldschoolqb13 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 3:18 pm
countywide35 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:43 pm
oldschoolqb13 wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:15 pm Frank is a class act and one heck of a coach...we're lucky to have him. I wish he was the coach when I played there. Paladin, you need help...seriously bro. You couldn't even play for Jasper Tech but want to run down a D-1 conference. I don't know when you played, but I wish I played against you b/c you'd still be blowing snot bubbles!


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:48 pm There are three things at play to consider:

1) Frank Solich is a solid coach. He is a program builder, a good recruiter and he consistently puts out well-prepared teams.

2) The FBS/1-A has gradually become an ever-evolving arms race toward the top in the past 20 years, across the ‘high-major’ (e.g. BCS/Power 6 conferences) and high-tier ‘mid-major’ (e.g. non-automatic qualifier/Group of 6) schools alike. The high-major schools are largely big dogs that are a class or two away from serious consideration toward the college football playoff; the high-flying G6 schools (e.g. Central Florida, Boise State, Memphis, U of Cincy) are more engineered structurally (by means of heavier investment toward the financial health of the football program and its facilities, an emphasis toward consistently seeking out coaches that can recruit strong etc) toward this push to the national conversation. At current, none of the MAC schools are and frankly I don’t think any of them, including OU, ever will be. With the Ohio schools in particular, they’re fighting a decades-long recruiting battle they’ve constantly lost ground in against their better-funded, more successful FBS peers (the Power 5 schools, high-flyer mid-major programs). When was the last time any MAC school crested the ranks of being in the national spotlight in postseason play? Northern Illinois six years or so ago, when they lost to Florida State? Before then? Miami (OH) in 03, a directional Michigan school here or there? That right there, although truly to no fault of OU, works against the Bobcats in the grander scheme of the ever-challenging climb toward “exceeding expectations” (however measured.)

3) Read the second point again.
I adore this post. not everybody can be a huge enourmous university. but don't lose track of what college is. it's education first for young lives that will lead our country into the future. and the mac is consistently knocking off big boys early in the season expecting a week off with them. and it happens every year. these other conferences are getting stronger by the year. look at app state, ucf, cincy, Memphis, marshall, boise, Houston, and the like . there conferences are turning into much deeper more respectable programs. the problem is keeping coaches in them. as many use these conferences as building blocks and resume boosters to move up. and there is really no way around that happening. it's just the nature of the beast. so to people like frank solich I tip my hat to you sir. and it's an honor to see an integral, experienced coach on the bobcat sidelines that is influencing young men's lifes and molding them. he is a breath of fresh air from the lane kiffin's and bobby petrino's out there.


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heck look at smu, and navy too. the list gets better every year. heck look at liberty as well.


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and then you compare that to florida of all teams playing 2 fcs schools in one season. yet trying to get a legitimate high ranking because they are sec.


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Solich is much better than the former OHIO coaches, but it seems his system has become obsolete. I personally think it’s time for a change.


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Still waiting for Paladin to tell us all where he played his college ball at.......


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Bleeding Red wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:26 am Still waiting for Paladin to tell us all where he played his college ball at.......
Well.....we're waiting (in my best Ted Knight voice)!


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formerfcfan wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:48 pm There are three things at play to consider:

1) Frank Solich is a solid coach. He is a program builder, a good recruiter and he consistently puts out well-prepared teams.

2) The FBS/1-A has gradually become an ever-evolving arms race toward the top in the past 20 years, across the ‘high-major’ (e.g. BCS/Power 6 conferences) and high-tier ‘mid-major’ (e.g. non-automatic qualifier/Group of 6) schools alike. The high-major schools are largely big dogs that are a class or two away from serious consideration toward the college football playoff; the high-flying G6 schools (e.g. Central Florida, Boise State, Memphis, U of Cincy) are more engineered structurally (by means of heavier investment toward the financial health of the football program and its facilities, an emphasis toward consistently seeking out coaches that can recruit strong etc) toward this push to the national conversation. At current, none of the MAC schools are and frankly I don’t think any of them, including OU, ever will be. With the Ohio schools in particular, they’re fighting a decades-long recruiting battle they’ve constantly lost ground in against their better-funded, more successful FBS peers (the Power 5 schools, high-flyer mid-major programs). When was the last time any MAC school crested the ranks of being in the national spotlight in postseason play? Northern Illinois six years or so ago, when they lost to Florida State? Before then? Miami (OH) in 03, a directional Michigan school here or there? That right there, although truly to no fault of OU, works against the Bobcats in the grander scheme of the ever-challenging climb toward “exceeding expectations” (however measured.)

3) Read the second point again.
You are largely spot on, and though those MAC schools would like to be, if you look at the $$$ required one would realize that such rise to prominence is really not possible to build and maintain.

On another note, you omitted Western Michigan and "Row Your Boat".


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YOU'RE TIGER BAIT wrote: Fri Dec 13, 2019 9:54 am
formerfcfan wrote: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:48 pm There are three things at play to consider:

1) Frank Solich is a solid coach. He is a program builder, a good recruiter and he consistently puts out well-prepared teams.

2) The FBS/1-A has gradually become an ever-evolving arms race toward the top in the past 20 years, across the ‘high-major’ (e.g. BCS/Power 6 conferences) and high-tier ‘mid-major’ (e.g. non-automatic qualifier/Group of 6) schools alike. The high-major schools are largely big dogs that are a class or two away from serious consideration toward the college football playoff; the high-flying G6 schools (e.g. Central Florida, Boise State, Memphis, U of Cincy) are more engineered structurally (by means of heavier investment toward the financial health of the football program and its facilities, an emphasis toward consistently seeking out coaches that can recruit strong etc) toward this push to the national conversation. At current, none of the MAC schools are and frankly I don’t think any of them, including OU, ever will be. With the Ohio schools in particular, they’re fighting a decades-long recruiting battle they’ve constantly lost ground in against their better-funded, more successful FBS peers (the Power 5 schools, high-flyer mid-major programs). When was the last time any MAC school crested the ranks of being in the national spotlight in postseason play? Northern Illinois six years or so ago, when they lost to Florida State? Before then? Miami (OH) in 03, a directional Michigan school here or there? That right there, although truly to no fault of OU, works against the Bobcats in the grander scheme of the ever-challenging climb toward “exceeding expectations” (however measured.)

3) Read the second point again.
I adore this post. not everybody can be a huge enourmous university. but don't lose track of what college is. it's education first for young lives that will lead our country into the future. and the mac is consistently knocking off big boys early in the season expecting a week off with them. and it happens every year. these other conferences are getting stronger by the year. look at app state, ucf, cincy, Memphis, marshall, boise, Houston, and the like . there conferences are turning into much deeper more respectable programs. the problem is keeping coaches in them. as many use these conferences as building blocks and resume boosters to move up. and there is really no way around that happening. it's just the nature of the beast. so to people like frank solich I tip my hat to you sir. and it's an honor to see an integral, experienced coach on the bobcat sidelines that is influencing young men's lifes and molding them. he is a breath of fresh air from the lane kiffin's and bobby petrino's out there.
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vladimir wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:33 am Solich is much better than the former OHIO coaches, but it seems his system has become obsolete. I personally think it’s time for a change.
Could you please explain to us what Coach Solich's system is and why said system is obsolete? I am curious.


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oldschoolqb13 wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:45 am
Bleeding Red wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:26 am Still waiting for Paladin to tell us all where he played his college ball at.......
Well.....we're waiting (in my best Ted Knight voice)!
I think we will be waiting a while as Paladin dreams up some story about his college career like he did for his coaching career.

He is truly a scum imposter.


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Anyone (Paladin) who would be critical of Division 1 athletes in any way shows how crazy they are.


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Pol pot wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:16 pm
vladimir wrote: Sat Dec 14, 2019 12:33 am Solich is much better than the former OHIO coaches, but it seems his system has become obsolete. I personally think it’s time for a change.
Could you please explain to us what Coach Solich's system is and why said system is obsolete? I am curious.
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Ohio currently has the worst recruiting class in D1 at 131.


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OU just won their third straight bowl game, which was also their fifth straight postseason appearance. There are probably at least 70 FBS programs where that would be certainly welcomed and call for an extension (which Frank just got earlier this week.)


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Never look down on a FCS/Low Level FBS program.

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