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Patriot Ridge is a fairly recent development. It was built knowing that kids could go to Wheelersburg because it adjoins Green School District. It is populated by several families who used to live inside the Wheelersburg School District. It would have not been proposed as a housing development if Open Enrollment wasn’t mandated. One of the major selling points is the fact that students could go to Wheelersburg Schools.

I hope those of you who are having fun using these points to downgrade the success of Wheelersburg athletics have a better week or month ahead. The rules have been established and they operate within them to be successful and in a capatilist country such as ours I believe that’s to be applauded. You can try and undermine or even push backwards towards Socialism if you want.

This is a very weird way to find your happiness but if it makes you happy then keep poking the bear.

LICKING COUNTY FAN wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:27 am One tourney for open enrollment/private schools and one for closed enrollment schools.

How many schools throughout the state are closed enrollment schools? Just curious..........I thought all schools participated in open enrollment. As far as Scioto County goes, I think that all of the schools are open enrollment. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

LucasDavenport wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:58 am Patriot Ridge is a fairly recent development. It was built knowing that kids could go to Wheelersburg because it adjoins Green School District. It is populated by several families who used to live inside the Wheelersburg School District. It would have not been proposed as a housing development if Open Enrollment wasn’t mandated. One of the major selling points is the fact that students could go to Wheelersburg Schools.

I hope those of you who are having fun using these points to downgrade the success of Wheelersburg athletics have a better week or month ahead. The rules have been established and they operate within them to be successful and in a capatilist country such as ours I believe that’s to be applauded. You can try and undermine or even push backwards towards Socialism if you want.

This is a very weird way to find your happiness but if it makes you happy then keep poking the bear.

Public education, by principle, is socialist. Everyone pays in, even though not everyone directly benefits from the pay-in. Equal opportunity afforded regardless of equal input (instead, the input is equitable... 'a la' property tax corresponding to home value.) Open enrollment and private education, by contrast, is capitalistic.

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Anyways, school district lining is practical and efficient from a macro-education perspective; the belief that "you live there, you go to school there" however is antiquated thinking and overly rhetorical. If you live on the fringe of district 'A', with the high school 20 minutes from your house while the high school of contiguous district 'B' is only 10-15 minutes away, to what benefit does it serve anyone to be attending high school 'A' "because that's where you live"? Or, if you have lived in district 'A' for x years and then recently it becomes engulfed in budget cuts due to continuous increased deficit spending that puts the district in a huge hole?

a_c_m wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 11:23 am

LICKING COUNTY FAN wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:27 am One tourney for open enrollment/private schools and one for closed enrollment schools.

How many schools throughout the state are closed enrollment schools? Just curious..........I thought all schools participated in open enrollment. As far as Scioto County goes, I think that all of the schools are open enrollment. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

I think it memory serves, that only 25% of the schools in Ohio are closed enrollment.

Prime Time wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:03 am My question would be if parents knows this home addition or place is not within the boundaries of that school district and stop open enrollment , I think that would help tremendously . Would parents move to that area knowing they would have to attend that school district. so stopping open enrollment I think would solve many problems from my perspective. Another thought here is parents that are well off building in these upper class areas but not wanting to send kids to that school,district, having it both ways.

Okay, so then lets say they take away open enrollment but still let the private schools let whoever they want to attend. How is that even a little bit fair? In sports then, very few small public schools would be able to compete with the loaded up private schools because trust me, if open enrollment was taken away you would see more public kids going to private schools.

Like was said most kids choose a different school for academic reasons, not just sports.

LucasDavenport wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:58 am Patriot Ridge is a fairly recent development. It was built knowing that kids could go to Wheelersburg because it adjoins Green School District. It is populated by several families who used to live inside the Wheelersburg School District. It would have not been proposed as a housing development if Open Enrollment wasn’t mandated. One of the major selling points is the fact that students could go to Wheelersburg Schools.

So basically Patriot Ridge and Hunters Point were created just outside the Wheelersburg school district so expensive houses can be built but not have to pay high property taxes.
And you question that Wheelersburg residents that voted in and are paying for the new schools aren't ticked that 40% of the football roster and however many on basketball /baseball all the way down to biddy ball are dodging the payment?

I don’t question it. I don’t know what it has to do with Burg v Harvest Prep or the constant bringing it up on a sports forum. But hey - you do you.

Perhaps there will be an uprising! A 100 person March demanding proper playing time for taxpayers kids! Quotas will be established. You might be onto something

Separate private and public state tournaments will never happen. If you think our current system is bad go to the Kentucky state tournamen and see if you like that better. Send one of our teams to play a Moeller, Wayne, Trotwood, SVSM, etc...no thank you. This year in football out of 7 state championships didn’t public schools take 5-6? I think public schools take a lot of pride in over coming the privates. There’s not many private schools in our area if any so our teams don’t get to feel that until regionals or so but I think the current setup is more rewarding because if you have separate titles is your team truly the best in the state? No. Who wants to say they are 1A or 1B. I’m sure I’ll get ridiculed for this perspective and yes I’m from a small public school area so I have no favoritism for privates. The debate between Burg and what they do or don’t do is undoubtely annoying anymore on this forum site lol enjoy st patty’s Day everyone and take a chill pill.

BallDontLie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:49 pm Separate private and public state tournaments will never happen. If you think our current system is bad go to the Kentucky state tournamen and see if you like that better. Send one of our teams to play a Moeller, Wayne, Trotwood, SVSM, etc...no thank you. This year in football out of 7 state championships didn’t public schools take 5-6? I think public schools take a lot of pride in over coming the privates. There’s not many private schools in our area if any so our teams don’t get to feel that until regionals or so but I think the current setup is more rewarding because if you have separate titles is your team truly the best in the state? No. Who wants to say they are 1A or 1B. I’m sure I’ll get ridiculed for this perspective and yes I’m from a small public school area so I have no favoritism for privates. The debate between Burg and what they do or don’t do is undoubtely annoying anymore on this forum site lol enjoy st patty’s Day everyone and take a chill pill.

This!

BallDontLie wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:49 pm Separate private and public state tournaments will never happen. If you think our current system is bad go to the Kentucky state tournamen and see if you like that better. Send one of our teams to play a Moeller, Wayne, Trotwood, SVSM, etc...no thank you. This year in football out of 7 state championships didn’t public schools take 5-6? I think public schools take a lot of pride in over coming the privates. There’s not many private schools in our area if any so our teams don’t get to feel that until regionals or so but I think the current setup is more rewarding because if you have separate titles is your team truly the best in the state? No. Who wants to say they are 1A or 1B. I’m sure I’ll get ridiculed for this perspective and yes I’m from a small public school area so I have no favoritism for privates. The debate between Burg and what they do or don’t do is undoubtely annoying anymore on this forum site lol enjoy st patty’s Day everyone and take a chill pill.

Dilly Dilly!!

Urban wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:25 pm

LucasDavenport wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:58 am Patriot Ridge is a fairly recent development. It was built knowing that kids could go to Wheelersburg because it adjoins Green School District. It is populated by several families who used to live inside the Wheelersburg School District. It would have not been proposed as a housing development if Open Enrollment wasn’t mandated. One of the major selling points is the fact that students could go to Wheelersburg Schools.

So basically Patriot Ridge and Hunters Point were created just outside the Wheelersburg school district so expensive houses can be built but not have to pay high property taxes.
And you question that Wheelersburg residents that voted in and are paying for the new schools aren't ticked that 40% of the football roster and however many on basketball /baseball all the way down to biddy ball are dodging the payment?

"40%" Plus I think you said earlier that "The person that told me has a sister that lives in Wheelersburg." Where are you getting your facts Urban?

I didn't grow up here. Try coming from a county (Jackson) that has 3 total high schools and the biggest HS (Jackson) is D3 in football while the other two schools are D5. And those two towns (Wellston, Oak Hill) have zero industry to compete with having people moving into Jackson! How would you feel about that, about the "open enrollment" kids who have blatantly come from Jackson to Oak Hill to play basketball for Stormin Normin??

Also, I live right on the border of the Wheelersburg district. I don't have a Wheelersburg address, but all of my school property taxes go to Wheelersburg. Why would I NOT send my children to Wheelersburg?

Who's your team Urban, and again, what's your GRIPE? Why do you care SO MUCH how Burg does in baseball, football, basketball, softball, track, tennis, swimming, tiddly winks, chess, nose picking, plant growing? Does it just kill you that families want to live here and want a good education for their children and want a chance at success at athletics? And before you throw the "eliteism" card out there, we have low income housing in quite a few places in the Burg and more than our share of social problems. So, again, what is it? "40%?" "The person that told me has a sister that lives in Wheelersburg."

Good grief.

Patriot ridge is not just some relatively new subdivision. It has certain zone laws and houses must meet certain requirements. Another words it’s a upscale neighborhood.
Hunters point is not just burg families looking for new housing. There is plenty of land in burg that can and will be developed.

I’ll tell you why urban is talking. He believes that working hard, community support, hard working coaches, and long standing tradition are not the way to success but rather going out and seeing if a couple of kids from the country would want to go to school and play a sport at burg. That’s smart thinking.

It’s simple math:

Great school + Great athletics = early transfer into school.

wobycat wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:44 pm Patriot ridge is not just some relatively new subdivision. It has certain zone laws and houses must meet certain requirements. Another words it’s a upscale neighborhood.
Hunters point is not just burg families looking for new housing. There is plenty of land in burg that can and will be developed.

I’ll tell you why urban is talking. He believes that working hard, community support, hard working coaches, and long standing tradition are not the way to success but rather going out and seeing if a couple of kids from the country would want to go to school and play a sport at burg. That’s smart thinking.

It’s simple math:

Great school + Great athletics = early transfer into school.

Agree completely. And we do welcome Urban to SEOPs. Oak Hill develops a good basketball program and players come to join them. That’s how it works.

So I guess what people are trying to say is Harvest Prep and Wheelersburg teach the same “Simple Math”classes.

Great School + Great Athletics = Transfers into School.

Now that it has been established that it is the same philosophy, I think an administrator should lock this topic.

ItsMyOpinion wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:16 pm So I guess what people are trying to say is Harvest Prep and Wheelersburg teach the same “Simple Math”classes.

Great School + Great Athletics = Transfers into School.

Now that it has been established that it is the same philosophy, I think an administrator should lock this topic.

No. Harvest prep math is different

Funded prep school + aau circuit = late transfers

Lol!!! “We are the only ones that are allowed to use that philosophy! Everybody else cheats!” Lol!

People continue to prove my Point!

ItsMyOpinion wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:24 pm Lol!!! “We are the only ones that are allowed to use that philosophy! Everybody else cheats!” Lol!

People continue to prove my Point!

Oh boy. People are losing comprehension. No one is cheating. Both teams are are legal within ohsaa rules, but one is a lot more glaring than the other at least in this sport it is.

Pickoff42 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:33 pmSo, again, what is it? "40%?"

30 football players last year did not live in the Wheelersburg district

30÷76 players on roster = 39.47% of roster lives out of district

Urban wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Pickoff42 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:33 pmSo, again, what is it? "40%?"

30 football players last year did not live in the Wheelersburg district

30÷76 players on roster = 39.47% of roster lives out of district

Why don’t you give us the percentage of those 30 kids that have attended Wheelersburg well before football ever starts for those kids.

Urban wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:31 pm

Pickoff42 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 17, 2018 3:33 pmSo, again, what is it? "40%?"

30 football players last year did not live in the Wheelersburg district

30÷76 players on roster = 39.47% of roster lives out of district

Where did you get your number from? How do you know Burg had 30 football players from out of the district? Wouldn’t that have jacked Burg’s CB number WAY up?????